HI guys, new to this forum and any respectful input is welcome.
I'm 33, 5'9" 170lbs:
just getting back into hitting the weights from about a 4 year dry spell where I had gained a massive amount of weight and started drinking and playing video games every night, going to my chemistry job, bleh routine. Suddenly I fell under my family insurance and went to get a check up. I knew I had high blood pressure (HPB) but did not know that my weight fluctuations were due to hypothyroidism. I went from 225 to 170 in 3-4 months (prescription T4). My friends were concerned that I was a guy with anorexia all of a sudden.
That was also helped by daily mountain biking and jogging. For some strange reason I got it in my head that I should wake up in the morning and drink as much water as my body would take from a pre-filled gallon jug, and exercise. My goal was to drink at least 1 gallon of water a day and finish it off with dry electrolyte powder. My doctor was stunned that on my next check up my (HPB) was right in range - which all of the males on my paternal side have.
Anyways, there's a little bit of backstory for you all.
On Cycle: 10 weeks (may change if I taper after wk 10 for 3 wks on lighter test injections plus 100mg primo/wk)
Tren E - 250mg/wk
1-Test Cyp - 250mg/wk
Test E - 500mg/wk
1st five days Sdrol 10mg twice per day as a jumpstarter. I noticed if I take Sdrol long enough, I get ragey as all fuck. 5 days I'll be fine though. That's why I'm simply running out of the gates with Test E
A-Dex on hand for any nipple sensitivity, which I've had a history of while on cycles.
Dandelion leaf (subcutaneous water)
Skullcap to diminish muscle twitching while sleeping. If I have to move up to Temazepam, I'll do it.
After those 10 weeks, I'm thinking about going 3 more weeks, but with:
Week One Taper: Test Prop 125mgs twice/wk
Primo 100mgs (I read somewhere it was a good ending roid because of for cycles)
Week Two Taper: Test Prop 75mgs twice/wk
Primo 100mgs
Week Three: Test Prop 50mgs once, 25 mgs the last dose.
Primo 100mgs
Daily A-Dex and Creatine loading with beta-alanine and Taurine starting @ week 2 taper.
PCT: 10 weeks tapering:
HCG 5000iu
Clomid 150mg ED tapering weekly. (My body doesn't tolerate Nolva)
A-dex 5mg/day tapering weekly
Either Ostarine or S-4, I haven't figured it out yet.
CJC-1295
IGF-1-LR3
MGF
Ipamorelin
ZMA (somebody said it was bullshit recently, but I have a full bottle of it so I might as well use it)
Tribulus (same reason as ZMA)
Creatine
L-Citrulline
ALCAR
Beta Alanine
Taurine
(I was thinking about GW-1516 and AICAR, don't have enough evidence yet)
My diet is clean for the most part, Protein: grilled fish every night (Mahi Mahi, Salmon, Bass, swordfish, Tuna steak, etc.) Black beans,almonds and walnuts. Eggs. Occasional Ribeye, brisket, chicken breast. Whey isolate.
Carbs: trying to find the best complex carb to fiber to sugar ratio. D-ribose, tagatose, and sucralose as sweeteners.
Fats: Fish oil w/ DPA included. Olive Oil. Walnut Oil, Almond Oil, TTA.
Those are my plans, but again it would be nice to get some feedback. Is DAA, agmatine, or sarcosine any good? Those ones I've yet to try.
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Dang bro, we're the same height around the same age and I got about 65 lbs. more muscle on my body than you. When I read your cycle, I feel so stupid in the bright white light of your brilliance. Doesn't matter, time to eat . . . I only do simple stuff in comparison to you . . . I don't understand how I could have succeeded being such a dumb meathead like I am . . .
I like the keep it simple stupid idea, this whole layout is a dogs breakfast, messy and nasty, multiple things going wrong here, and its not just your responses.
k.i.s.s- you've been out of the game for 4 years, so test e for 12 weeks is all you need, for pct all you need is nolva and clomid. adex isn't for pct use that during cycle starting about week 3-4, superdrol for 5 days is pointless, just like the rest of that stuff in your pct.
As I wrote in my post Nolva has bad side effects with me. I forgot about A-Dex not being for PCT, so thanks for reminding me.
RustyhookerAnother TROLL POST. Which banned member are you.....
I think you need to look at how you talk to people. Guys try to help you, then you take a condescending tone to everyone that doesn't agree with you. Spreadsheet or not, your cycle plan is ugly. I'd happily explain in detail but I think you'd just dismiss any advice you get as inferior to your own knowledge. As a result I'll save you the trouble ;)
As I stated I'm open to respectful advice. Rework my cycle plan, let's see the illustration you can paint!
Bro you can't really come on here with a mess like this and "demand" respect... do some resesarch, get a clue and come back with something worthy of respect
Are you on, or plan to use HGH?
Yeah, thats what he needs... another compund >: /
Why would adding GH to replace numberous other substances be a bad thing? I figure if the GH could cause him to drop some things out of his cycle to simplify it. At his age it might help him reach his goals better instead of using all of the compounds he has listed. I thought it worked a lot better for me than using a bunch of peptides and unneeded AAS. His cycle is overwhelming and the simpler the better.
the guy doesnt have a clue and you want to give him ideas on more dangerous compounds to add to this disaster... use common sense bro
I think chemdawg made a good suggestion. There's no reason to do those peptides if he can use the HGH. It's a nice try. However, you guys are right. He ain't listening.
RustyhookerRead the guys replies. He aint dropping anything! He's gonna add.
Don't worry...he'll be back with some sweet man titties.
I am a man who loves titties, I sure hope he posts his man sweater puppies lol
I don't know why members even ask for help if they are just going to continue with what they have planned for themselves.
Don't plan to, but if some runs my way I'll definitely consider it. Do you have any advice on incorporating that?
Why not run that instead of all the peptides. It has to be ran for at least 6 months for it to be effective, but it would simplify your cycle and maybe cause you to drop some other stuff that wouldn't be needed.
I'll check what the HGH prices go for and see.
Just make sure you do the proper research before you start taking it. Some members can help you come up with a better plan. Test and GH works wonders when used properly.
I don't see anything wrong with your cycle as i see you know just about everything that there is to know. Don't worry about what that VIKING dude says, he just started cycling a few days ago and obviously he is a rookie. Keep doing what you doing and stay happy with the results. 4 years off and coming back with this "sofisticated" cycle?? I got your back dude.... Smh
Not a very constructive find in RickRock1086.... must be too cool to give me tips on my cycle or something.
Interesting choice of compounds, your poor body must be begging to be put out of its misery. ALL those chemicals you oput in your body and you don't think something is gonna give? You combat one drug with another drug that combats another drug to be used with another drug. Holy shit man. What ever happened to simple cycles? Ever have your blood sugar checked as well? All those chemicals have the makings of borderline diabetes my friend.
I'm taking the time to answer your questions so the least you can do is answer mine.
(And you don't think something's gonna give?) Well, tendonitis could invariably hit, so that would get remedied with Cissus and Glucosamine plus anti
inflammatories, like simple Ibuprofen (and curry).
Slow down and shut down are easy to detect, so that's why I have the test prop and primo backups.
I've never had a questionable blood sugar sample, and yes, somewhere around 21 times when they were calibrating the fluctuations with my blood results, blood sugar, cholesterol, and triglycerides were never an issue once.
I don't see the diabetes pattern my friend. Look in my carbs section where I'm looking for the best complex carb-fiber-sugar ratio. I sweeten things with D-ribose (Glycemic Index [GI] -), Tagatose (GI = ~3) and Sucralose (GI=0)
What do you expect to happen introducing all those chemicals at once into your body? Hulk like appearance in 60 days? As far as bloodwork are you having them test your insulin levels or just female panel because they are definitely not the same. I'm not trying to be a smartass but why the hell are you putting so much shit in your body? How will you know if you get bad sides which chemical it was? Did you put this cycle together or are you bits and pieces multiple cycles into 1? How many times do you get your bloodwork done? Do you get it done in the morning after fasting for 12 hours? Do you get it done at the same time each time? Sounds to me like your body is going to go on a happy spikey roller coaster, I'm trying to help believe me but 1st I need to see what led you to the conclusion that all this together works.
Also using someones insulin test for a blood sample is not sufficient at all, you have to have a panel done.
My nephew has diabetes and he has to test at the same time every day and he had to have a panel done before they found out he had it. Diabetes is a serious side effect to ghrp usage, whether it is ghrp-6 or 2 or combining it with igf and cjc which you have to do anyways to get any real benefit. I did some research on using peptides and came to the conclusion that HGH will work out better in the long run and be way cheaper. Try shortening that list a little and the outcome would be much better. These are just my opinions so don't get upset.
Any bloodwork they prefer in the early morning as I've fasted for enough hours, 12 I believe, yes. Why are you worried about my insulin levels so much? Anyways, bloodwork gets done every two weeks unless I request it earlier.
I feel great so far, so shortening it at maybe 8 weeks and tapering off from there is an option also. Thank you for the suggestion!
How did I got to this was one brick at a time. Tren E (the dark horse) was the newbie. I anticipated its sides and so far this is no 5 week Superdrol/test cycle...... I was an asshole. All of those peptides I've worked with with fine results, they lead into a good trim for Spring cutting.
Again, I've been tested for I an II diabetes type. As of now I don't have them but I watch my GI because of Glycation primarily, not diabetes.
LOL... wtf happened to the K.I.S.S. approach ???.... i got dizzy just reading this mess :/
Maybe that's the approach for you. Mine is meticulously planned out on a spreadsheet on my computer. Keep it smarter, superior. Simplicity has its elegance, but when it comes to bringing about results with things that've worked for you in the past and streamlining them into a system, why throw in a couple ingredients and call it a week?
Constructive criticism: as in, well, I've taken x and y, but not z at the same time, but my buddy did, and it didn't work out well.
Glad i called back in here lol..... first off i really hope you are smarter and more superior, and i hope your method gives you some results...... for me!.. i have only been juicing and competing for 30+ yrs and all my thrown together plans are scribbled on the back of an empty cig pack lmfao!.... Aaah i just noticed thats nearly as long as you have been walking the planet.
Looking at your post you sound more like a fkn cripple than an athlete....... now come back with your fly hedgefund tech geek mouth and let me drop the fkn hammer on your pea head you self-important fuckstick.
getting bored waiting......................
Let me hold that for you awhile brother, that HAMMER can get pretty heavy when its not in full swing >: /
Teamwork!
Vike is a competitive body builder and has been for over twenty years. He also trains people for a living. I'll take that over a spreadsheet. He just gave you advice: keep it simple and so did others in their post. I don't know how you can get better "constructive criticism" than than. It's up to you to take it or not...
Competitive Bodybuilding is VERY complex 24/7/365. There's no KISS in that. I never mentioned I was going for competitive BB. I was talking about one cycle in a persons life. Arguments from Authority are fallacious, but a "here's what I would do with what you have here" approach would probably work better with most people. That's my inclination.
You like to talk in circles. It sounds like you have an answer you're looking for and will disregard anything that doesn't match what's in your head. Good luck with that approach, especially here at eroids. Also, your title says "respectful imput welcome"; I suppose that doesn't go for you dealing with others...
Can I have one example where I was disrespectful rather than disrespected?
Disregarding and dismissing everyone's advice is disrespectful. You having to ask what you've done shows that either you are a troll or are just a jerk. What is everyone's tone back to you? Not positive. You never see that in other threads when both parties are respectful. You haven't been and now you're reaping what you've sown.
If you really wan't advice (which it looks like you don't), start by apologizing and listening and responding back to people with relevant questions and comments. Short of that, you will receive the same responses.
RustyhookerYou're alreafy on that bogus BS cycle at your weight and lack of skill? You really don't want testicular function do you?
Smh! Roids are NOT the answer....
I have 20% or less motility in my sperm since I was 19. Started gear @ 22.
If you say roids are NOT the answer and I ask what is and you come back with eat clean (already do), workout with a trainer (one is my best friends' from Austin) and stay drug free or something I'll simply, but politely, give you a free ticket to Paris France by Plane, or give you the choice to walk, bicycle, swim or there instead if you think you can. Hang gliders could work too. Hopefully I haven't lost you on the metaphor sir.
You already have all the answers jackass, why waste our time pretending you want to learn. Get to pinning and save the learning for others...
Let's forgo the namecalling for other riffraff. If there are adjustments to my cycle you'd advise against, simply state them and why. That's what this forum is here for; constructive advice isn't it?
I'm paying attention to your responses to posters and you are in any sense of the word trying to belittle people and prove that you came on here with your cycle plan to bait others into some sort of debate. It worked but to disregard people who have been doing this for years is kind of fucking retarded because they have more cycles under their belt then you have years on this planet. What was the real reason you decided to come here and post that cycle? Surely you have no plans to listen to advice and just have an answer for everything? You have constant bloodwork done, you have your sugar levels checked, you even have an answer for everything however fallacious it is. Your hypothesis on what would work by combining research peptides and androgenic chemicals may conclude with mendacious results affecting your mental capacity to assimilate between what is real and what is Spreadsheet fantasies. I can use fancy words in sentences as well. To sum it up we do not need anymore people coming to this site all high and fucking mighty posting cycles that would work if you were an orangutang and then getting ass hurt because veterans to this game poke so many holes in their asinine thinking. Thank you for your time and good luck to you sir.
I've been doing this for years too you know, just stopped for 4 years. Wanted advice on my cycle, where is it kind sir?