posted Thu, 09/13/2012 - 08:56
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HELP test enthate250/trenbalone enthate 200/equibol 300 cycle
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this is my next cycle 2ml test 2ml tren 2ml equibol a week cant find mutch info on it or many people that have done this cycle so dont know what to do for pct has anyone done this cycle what where gains like any info would be mutch appreciated
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cdaddy7Sorry bout the drama bigboy2011, here's my TRIED and PROVEN Diet..I have used this over and over again and it yields me quality gains..It tokk me some time to contruct the diet, Years actually bc I had to learn what I was doing and not doing.....You have my years of reseach and master plan in your hand....Regardless of the ignorant statement below on the protein....I GUARANTEE you the results you seek if properly adhered to
cdaddy7What I will give you is my Mass Diet...You want to grow so here you go...I guarantee you will bulk up with lean mass and it's super clean:
My simple diet plan for bulking for myself (205lbs):
You have to eat every few hours so you cannot start meal 1 at 9AM
Meal 1: 10 egg whites and 3 whole eggs=50g protein, 1.5 cup oats
Meal 2: 2 8 oz. chicken breast=50g protein, 1.5 cup mashed sweet potato
Preworkout : 2 scoop whey=approx 50g protein,1 cup oats
Post workout: 2 8 oz. chicken breast=50g protein, 1.5 cup brown rice
Meal 5: 2 6 oz. lean mince/ground beef=50g protein, 1 cup mashed sweet potato, veggies
Meal 6: 2 4 oz. tilapia fillets=50g protein, 1/2 cup brown rice
Meal 7: 2 cans of albacore tuna fish very low sodium in H2O=60g protein, 1 cup oats
Meal 8: Bedtime shake 2 scoops casein=50g protein, 2 tbsp. natural PB
That gives me a total of 360g protein from food sources. The key to me getting my 400g protein minimum is I drink 50g whey protein shakes in between the meals giving me 410g total. This is my sweet spot. Now I vary in the amounts of servings at time but no less on the protein.
For more on diet/nutrition
http://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/weight-loss/nurition...
Yessir77Why would you ever intake 400g of protein per day? Ridiculous.. Post like this make the supplement industry rich. There is ABSOLUTELY no reason for you to intake that amount of protein.. Most EXPERTS (who do not own a supplement company) agree that the average man's body will not synthesize anymore than half body weight x grams of protein... SO a 200lb dude will not synthesize more than 100g of protein per day. You are simply eating food to be eating food. Bad advice bro.
Anabolics stimulate protein systhesis, allowing for more protein to be synthesized. Its a shame you needed to make your self look like a jerk, just to be wrong.
zewiAnabolic steroids cause enzymes, such as RNA polymerase, to promote two important biochemical reactions, creatine phosphate synthesis and protein synthesis. Creatine phosphate is a molecule that can be metabolized in the absence of sufficient oxygen as a short term energy source. Increased creatine phosphate synthesis enables athletes to train harder and for longer periods of time. Protein synthesis is increased as the newly formed receptor-steroid complex migrates to the nucleus and initiates transcription. The production of RNA is elevated, causing an increased rate of protein synthesis
when planning to gain muscle rapidly when on anabolic steroids, more protein is needed than under conditions where one cannot expect rapid muscle gains. This only stands to reason since each pound of muscle gained contains 90 grams of protein or something like this and due to marginal feed efficiency never being anywhere near 100%, quite a bit more than 90 grams more protein is required in excess of what would be adequate maintenance protein for a resistance training athlete.
I recommend 2-2.5 grams per pound of LBM/day with the lower figure being really minimal. When protein is substantially les than this, substantially less gains are seen
Here are a formula to help you figure out how much protein to take in:
1. Have your body fat tested.
2. Multiply your body weight (in pounds) by body fat % to get your total fat weight.
3. Subtract your fat mass from your total body weight to get Lean Body Mass (LBM).
4. Now multiply your LBM (x) 1.818 to get your body's required grams of protein per day.
Always love how the ones screaming "TOO MUCH PROTEIN" usually are the ones less than 170-180lb haha
Thanks bro..you just saved me a load of time there bringing that to the table +3... lets wrap this thing up without a war in here please guys.
I'm with cdaddy on this one, and I think you'll fine most will back that level of protein. Ever wondered why Jay Cutler ate 140 egg whites per day? Did he have shares in a chicken farm?
You used the term "average mans body". A bodybuilder isn't really in that category IMO.
I like his Costco video haha.
zewiThis is about the dumbest shit I have ever read.. what the fuck do you think muscle and your body is made of????
Yessir77Bottom line is, you don't have a clue to how much protein you absorb vs how much you waste. You just don't know, and that is the TRUTH.
He probably dont realise when on juice 2.2g is the optimum intake to make serious gains...tried and tested by every f-ing bodybuilder worth his salt in whole world.
Yessir77And where's the f-ing proof for that? You got a source you can post from a REPUTABLE DOCTOR backing that up? Or is that just "gym talk".. Gym talk makes people look like idiots and spend their money on things they shouldn't.
Fact.....im up 20 solid pounds with no water retention right now because i listened to these gurus on here. We don't broscience here....we Live it!
zewiHell yeah we do!!
Funny/odd thing with newbs. I give out free advice all day long....BUT I also ran my cycle and food plans etc past several vets here as well. Noones perfect. Having and taking advice builds your personal goals and expands your knowledge. It is truely a two way street. Right or wrong, when planning your attack, having a trusted group review your efforts....PRICELESS!!
cdaddy7The proof lies with us and our success
It has to be show n tell.
Slow ur roll dude. Show our Site Pro some damn respect ok. Change the tone please!
So you see the pro tag on VIKING. I guessing he knows better than you.
Go ahead and kick off at me LMFAO!
Yessir77Thats cool.. Deduct Karma for disagreeing.. Great Mod.
I have never taken karma from anyone but I made an exception for you. Whats your reasoning behind the attitude?
Walk away bro.
Done
Thank u.
LAST WARNING
zewiI TOOK AWAY YOUR KARMA DUMBASS!!!!
Yessir77Its hilarious that I suggest that protein intake may be a tad overrated and everyone acts like I cussed their mommas. Like I said before, bottom line is, NOBODY on this site has a clue as to how much protein they actually use and how much they actually waste. And that is a fact that no one here will DARE dispute. SO you can have all my Karma Zewi, because on this issue the facts just are not there.
GS warned you and you persist...goodbye.
cdaddy7Oh my bad, EXPERT.....what would you do then.....plz don't tell the guys I have an under the table deal with GNC
Yessir77Oh I won't... Just sayin bro, there is absolutely no reason for you to intake that amount of protein.. Your liver CANNOT break down that amount of protein.. Its just not possible. Jay and Phil don't intake that amount of protein. Ever think that the supplement companies may produce reports that "recommend" an amount of protein higher than needed in a crazy scheme to pull a profit? Cut your protein in half and you will get the EXACT SAME RESULTS.
cdaddy7Those exact same results look like they worked for you in your profile pic
Really go to youtube and watch the grocery shopping of a pro for a week.
zewiWhat is your goal really????????????????
cdaddy7I assuming bc he said lean mass and strength but I think he's lean enough and should go with the bulker his bodyfat is 8% so he's got good options
zewi5ft 8 age 22 and on 5th cycle----IMO he has never done a correct cycle.
cdaddy7OR his diet sucks ass....What do you think Z? Can he benifit from these options or should we edit and send him back to basic...However i feel he won't and end up on tren and all fucked up so I was trying to give him safe options
zewiyou cant edit--i wouldn't give him shit. Until he understands what he is doing.. I understand he is here. and seems like he has the right attitude---but 5 cycles already??? Something is off..
cdaddy7Waalaahhh MAGIC!!! GONE!!!
zewiLOL.. i don't no if you agree with me. Im just saying---I was reading and reading.
If he has really done 5 cycles--I believe he really has never ran a correct PCT--or even no what an AI is.
I mean if he ran them correctly and lets assume its 12 weeks. Time on + PCT is time off. 28 weeks the most you can run is 2 per year so his 21 and two more takes him to 20 one more takes him to 19--that's assuming he did it right.. Which we no from this fucking post he has not...
This is not free-be-land. And I am no longer going to any thread that doesn't give cycle history age and bf, and goals anymore.. This is getting ridicules.
cdaddy7You know we fly together brother, I'm your wing man....You go, I go....We the Dream Team!!! LOL
zewireally its starting to piss me OFF. we got great vets and gurus in here.. And we have to ask every fucking time---WHATS YOU BF AGE CYCLE History..
Is are time not worth anything??? Fuck im pissed today...
Get a sticky at top of steroid cycles that states before you ask a question about cycles you must provide this info. Give the list of requirements.
cdaddy7Z then it starts with us and others will follow...WE can set the standard
Fuck the steroids off and eat some steak! Enjoy the best natural test you will have in your life, plus your balls make it for free! More money for steak!
X2 brother..if only it was a perfect world!..most young guys i speak to in gyms are using bucket loads of juice with hardly any or mostly NO pct,when i ask the question "hows your diet what p intake like".. most answer.."oh yeah thats something i keep trying to sort out".. meaning they have no intention because it takes hard work and commitmant to spend a couple hours every night pre/prepping meals, they think they are growing due to test bloat and water from d/bols but NEVER lay down real hard gnarly vascular mass..suppose thats the difference in men and boys... TIME AND PERSISTANCE is a skill that must be mastered to be truly productive in the muscle building game...my body is twice the age of these guys but i blow them away for quality and gains that will last me forever.
cdaddy7Its definitely diet day in the forums...Its apparent the need for nutrion and diets with these huys...Mo wonder they can't grow or gripe about not making any progress...It's obvious they are drooping the ball in the diet area
Prepping those meals every night pisses me right off. The next day, I'm laughing:)
Laugh hard bro because by doing that way you will be head and shoulders in front of these pricks that just juice..like this clown that posted here..5 cycles and 22yrs old he can kiss my ass.