posted Tue, 10/04/2016 - 18:51
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HELP AND ADVISE HOW TO CLOSE A CYCLE
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HI Guys:
Finished a Test Prop-Winstrol cycle. 9 weeks.
weeks 1-8 Test Prop- 2cc per week
weeks 4-9- winny tabs 30mg per day (pre workout).
I did obtain some good results adding 10pds of mostly lean muscle although my diet wasn't the cleanest and i am not a beast physically nor in the gym. I am 5'7 170 pds with a 15% body fat.
my question is, how long i should wait to use 100 d-bol caps i have after the last clomid pill?
i just started my pct that consist in clomid 1 per day.
i do love the Dbol effect (used it twice) but too much prone to gyno and water retention (rapid moon face) although low doses. Someone can help me here? will appreciate it.
thanks.
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well i would use dbol with test, in a separate cycle. so keep it for your next time. Old school stuff still works today, but the thing with Arnold is that he ate dbol everyday,about 50-60mg /day. Man this pounds your liver.
complete your pct, it is very important. also i would add to it nolvadex.
Go eat some more! Say no to drugs! Eat some more! Then guess what? Eat some more!
Testrogen_PropC...I'm really not understanding why you would even run this cycle. Like Remi said, 200mg of test prop a week is hardly going to get you above your natural test levels, and you obviously dont understand how the propionate ester works. Meaning you basically just ran an oral Winny cycle, and now you're talking about taking dbol ASAP even though you just started PCT (and a weak one at that).
You need to take a step away from the drugs for a while bro. Get your natural hormones back in order with a proper PCT and get your training and diet in order.
Dude you to took in the amount of test p,that your body damn near makes makes natural!!!! You should have been doing 2cc's eod in that was all your using.you shouldn't be doing a cycle or ending a cycle and then asking questions.you should listen the the guys below and do it natural for a couple years faithfully and then maybe think about doing it.sounds to me like you thought your were just gonna turn into cutler doing this.was a poor idea man.just get yourself back to normal and listen to what they tell you.
o sweet jesus. good luck to you. please do more research next time and put those dbol's in a safe, give some one the key, and don' let them give it back to you for at least a year while you put on another 10-15lbs of muscle by yourself and learn what the fuck it is you just did.
RustyhookerAnother fool.
Age: 35....Height: 5'8....Weight: 165.....BF:
VB69BF is around 12-13% according to a friend nutritionist. I put 15% originally on the post.
Dude, your 170bs and 15% bodyfat after 2 cycle. You need to stop the insanity here and get back to the heart and soul of things which is diet and training. What you are doing now isn't working and you are just screwing your body up. Run a real PCT with nolva and clomid and stop all of this cycling business and educate yourself a little more on how to properly use and when to use steroids before you screw yourself up big time. If you need some diet or training advice drop me a pm.
VB69Appreciate all the help and love guys!! Great to read from ALL of you.
Well, i been training for 4+ years. Has been into these 2 cycles and really liked this one what did to my body. Anyway,i have at hand the Dbol (100 caps 10mg) thats why i asked what to do with them. My basic question is, in theory, how much time i should wait after my PCT to start a Dbol/Test Prop Cycle.
Also, any overall recommendation or info about Tren? specially on gyno sides and Blood pressure. To continue to learn...
thanks.
I think the whole point was to shelf all cycling until you pack on some more natural muscle that you will be able to keep and why on earth would you even want to touch dbol if you are gyno prone.
VB69Makwa please accept my request so we can be friends here and pm.
I have some questions. Thanks for the advice guys!
Got it.
GnarkillOk well your all over the place with this. Um well pct should be clomid and say nolvadex and dbol should have been started the beginning of the cycle for 4 weeks max that shit is bad on the liver. Dbol is not to be used by itself hit the search button here brother not hating on you just search a little more good luck man
General rule of the thumb is time off = time on + pct.
That being said I encourage you to take a brake and spend some time on educating yourself about drugs you are using. Your pct looks a little weak, what is the dosage of your clomid? Are you planning on using dbol alone? if yes, then it is a bad idea. It seems that you have a lot to learn. Spend some time and read about basic cycles and standard pct. Those topics have been covered many times and I doubt anyone will spoon feed you the info when it is all their available for you to read so take the time and learn about the basics of using steroids. 4-6 weeks after your pct get a blood test to see how your test levels, lipids, estro, liver enzymes and the whole rest is doing and then you can start planning. Even the best pct will not recover you fully n 4-6 weeks. Your body and receptors need rest. Use that time to learn as much as possible. You have resources easily available, all you need is time and dedication.
VB69My PCT Plan is= Clomid 50mg per day, 30 days.
I finished my Test Prop (200mg/wk)/Winny pills (30mg/day) cycle 1 week ago.
I have 100 pills of Dbol from Darius. All i asking is:
How long should i wait after PCT to start a new cycle? That new cycle will consist on:
week 1-4= Dbol 20-30mg per day
Test Prop= 200mg per week for 8 weeks.
As you can see, i don't use my dosages too high. Only had done 2 cycles (including the one i just finished). I am happy with results. Just a little gyno prone (30mg of Dbol and some test really gave me some gyno symptoms) and not exactly a big fan of mixing more than 2 compounds taking into consideration that i use proviron during cycle.
please reply when you have a chance guys. Thanks again.
If you r gyno prone you mite want to forego the dbol all together, if you're not dialed in with your ai, you could run into issues pretty quick....50$ in dbol isn't worth a pair of b cups!...just my observation