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I decided not to continue Tren A. The Sides were too harsh. My sex drive gone. Having ED and the insomnia. Im going to continue Test E for the next 8 Weeks. Im wondering will the sides will slowly will go away during the rest of the cycle. I waited 20 days for the caber to come. Which was my mistake. I learned my lessons. Tren A works but I'm not dealing with insomnia and the other sides anymore. Would like your thoughts?

Rams2017

giardap's picture

What dosages, what injection protocol, what sides prevention protocol did you actually realise while on the cycle so far? Can you share?

If you cut out the ace the sides should go fast, and you can help that by taking caber and an AI like aromasin for a spell, then reassess

I love Tren personally, but admit I have experienced vicious sides in the past. The trick to getting Tren right is to find the sweet spot for you. Some people respond better than others meaning the dosages needed are far lower and if you go over you can experience bad sides. A hyper responder to Tren might also see EOD injections not keeping blood levels stable, and e3D definitely causing issues. For these people who get injection frequency (subjective to their body's response) wrong initially, when experiencing trouble, it is best to inject ED - make peace with it!

You could try a 1-2 week experiment to see if you can get back on track, if you were into seeing if it could be rectified....

For example:
A nice test base twice per week, should keep the libido nice and high - 500mg or so
A low dose, of say, 25mg tren ace ED
run an ai immediately EOD
run .125 caber with the ai, EOD
(start the AI a few days before you kick off with Tren)

I think that if you were to try this, you would get a realistic flavour for how you handle Tren, if you still get vicious sides, then it probably isnt for you.

Re: Insomnia, I find when you stabilise the bloods this disappears. However you could do 2 things that will definitely help
1. Take a melatonin supplement before bed
2. Listen to a fall asleep guided meditation and you will absolutely drift off

Re: Libido - cutting the tren now, taking the ai and keeping the test going should see you right. If stressed, you could get some cialis to avoid an embarassing moment, but it should kick back in naturally. On a low dose of tren with a moderate dose of test you should not experience loss of libido

giardap's picture

Absolutely Rusty, you will see no argument from me there, I agree 100% with you on the food issue, no debate.

The other side of the coin though, seems to show character who has shown progression both in weight and complexity of the compounds he is using and intent. He is experiencing problems on cycle right now... don't you think that warrants a little advice on best practices, given he is in the situation rather than pondering a future cycle?

tonytulo's picture

moved to steroid cycles.

PPGfreak's picture

5'9 & 213lb here and not on cycle. Have to agree with everyone that you need to work on your food intake and not worry about drugs. No combination of drugs will give you better gains than food....

What was your dosage on tren Ace? And you don't like the side effects from tren ace but you're telling us that you're going to continue using tren E? The sides are not less with one vs another.

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Jameshobbis's picture

Test e buddy

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PPGfreak's picture

My bad. What dosage were you running?

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GrowMore's picture

Get bloods pulled and see what the damage is mate. Do this quickly and we can help you from there

Rams2017's picture

will do

GrowMore's picture

Post them and these guys below will give you the best help around.. they've all helped me before!

vhman's picture

165lbs, ran tren and this is your fourth cycle!?!
Glad you're off the tren, but food seems to be your big problem, not aas.

Rams2017's picture

Food is not a problem. My bodyfat is %12. Do you understand?

333's picture

5'4 210 good God rh your a fucking monster wouldn't want to pass your ass in a dark alley no pun intended cause of your name

vhman's picture

I understand 165 and you've done four cycles. That's a problem. I'm 235 and 6'2", 13% bf and only run my trt dose is test. Food IS a problem for you.

Your other Major problem is your belief in the Rams!

Rams2017's picture

Actually my weight is at 183 as of right now. I didn't update my stats. My bad.

MegaTRON13's picture

Where are your pics?!?! Prove it... 183 is still not very big.. eat more, grow more... it's like the skinny dudes saying, " I just can't grow man, I eat a bunch of food", I ask them what there diet consists of and they tell me that they eat 6 times a day and two of there meals are something like a cheeseburger and pizza... c'mon man. Something is definitely fishy..I read your other replys. If you eat enough and have a strict diet without AAS, you will grow, if you add AAS with a strict legit diet, you will grow even more.. for having done the cycles you have done, you should be more than 165 and even 183 or whatever your true weight is...

Rams2017's picture

Eating too much or eating less?

Rams2017's picture

Your saying I should weigh more?

Livelife76's picture

Stats
Age: 34
Height: 5'9
Weight: 165
BF:

What's your bf% bro? At your weight there really isn't any reason to take tren at all. I'm not going to bash you as you learned the lesson and were at least smart enough to come off.

What are your priors? Goals?

165lbs man food is your Tren brother

Rams2017's picture

My bodyfat is 12%. My weight is fine at 183. I have a visible 4 pack. The Goal was too cut bodyfat and gain muscles. I have 4 cycles. Mostly Test E till 3rd Cycle it was Test Prop/Masteron

4th Cycle is current. Test E /Tren A

Livelife76's picture

No offense man but at 165lbs you still have plenty of natural gains to obtain on just proper nutrition and lifting. Take a look at the diet and nutrition forums here and decide to bulk man, trying to cut n bulk up at the same time just isn't the way to go, best of luck

Rams2017's picture

Weight is at 183. My mistake.