Gains Have Stopped...
-Age: 26
-Weight: 185lb (started @ 160lb)
-Height: 5'10
-BF: 14,
-5 years off and on training 1 year of solid training
-11 weeks into 14 week first cycle
Compounds: Weeks 1-8 Test E 500mgs a week
Diet: 180 grams protein, 4500 cals
11 weeks into my cycle my gains have stopped. 25 lb of weight in a short time is nothing to laugh at but I'm wondering why my gain have stopped at this time. Now this may have been a bad move but because my gains have slowed to a dead stop I add 300mg of tren E 2 weeks ago and 40mg of Anavar(daily) to my 500 mg of weekly test E.
I know tren is powerful and needs to be respected but I hate working my ass off and not gaining.
Any ideas why I'v stopped gaining? When should I feel the effects of the tren E? and was it a mistake to add the tren late in my cycle? If I fcked up and you know your shit let me know it.
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AnonYes you have completely fucked up.. end of story. Your diet is off and I suspect without knowning anything else you are over training and not getting enough rest. I would end the cycle now and start pct in two weeks. Do more research next time before starting your cycle.. never never never add a long ester and and oral in to a cycle that has plateaued.. you know nothing about at least one of the compounds.. very thoughtless of you really. Tren is for when you've exhausted all other avenues and you aren't gaining at all etc etc.. etc.. years into the game. I can't believe intstead of changing your training or diet you added compounds, sorry it just kinda blows me away.. ok done beating you .. stop now, pct, looking into a proper diet for running juice, look into alternative training methods, the name of the game is to shock the body. The body is amazing and adapts very quickly to what we throw at it.. you have to change it up to spur growth..
Same thing happened to me my first 2 cycles. I didnt understand it at the time and it frustrated me, too. Just be patient and do your best to eat right and train properly during pct and while youre off cycle so you retain most of your gains. Your next cycle you will gain more, the next cycle even more, and so on. I wanted to get it all done on my first cycle, too. The truth is that its going to take many cycles for you to achieve what you are trying to achieve. Everyone stops gaining at some point in their cycle. You can only do so much at one time. Take a break and let your body refresh and you will see better results with every cycle. Be patient, stay focused. It takes time and dedication. Dont rush it, and stay the fuck away from tren LOL!
I'm not trying to put you on blast but man, did you study at all or just pin first ask questions later? 2 big things are wrong with your approach, and I'm saying this loving so that you can learn from this mistake (not too big of a mistake, you did gain 25lbs!) First off, it's great that you obviously have an understanding of your nutrient intake, but 180g protein for 185lb guy that is "ON" cycle is WAY too low. Double it and now we're in the ball park. Secondly it wouldn't take much research to know what you're dealing with when you start messing with Tren-E, I with the best of them understand the overbearing urge to pack on size and the impatience that makes you want to pin first, then read up. But that's wicked dangerous for one, and secondly, you're only sacrificing your gains for the next cycle. Stop panicking and step back, you gained 25 freakin lbs man (assuming a lot of that muscle), that is fantastic, if it were possible to gain 25lbs EVERY cycle, we'd all be Jay Cutler in a matter of a year or two. Enjoy the tremendous gains you already got, PCT it right, and make your plan of a attach for your second run. Take it or leave it, the plan should start not with your gear, but with your diet. You can pin till you're blue in the face, but if your diet is not on point, you will NEVER have another 25lb cycle again. Your only saving grace this time was the fact that you started so light(160lbs) and fresh, trust me, there is never a cycle like your first cycle if you did it right!
Thanks bro, Thought my diet was on point, i'll increase the protein intake.
DT-SwoleObviously you're not eating enough to gain. Even if you gain fat you still know you're eating in excess.
Ive never had a cycle that I gained the entire time, generally without an oral I stop gaining a week 8, with an oral week 4/5...tren-e is a very bad move buddy, it will hit in another week and so will everything else that comes with it, id suggest researching tren-e sides and get ready, id also suggest stop pinning it. you should wait for many more cycles before using tren. and by the way I very seriously dought that your gonna gain anymore weight.
The only thing I can speak on is this...1 gram of protein per lb of bodyweight to maintain muscle. 1 1/2 grams + for muscle growth. Each gram of protein equals 4 calories, each gram of carbs equals 4 calories, each gram of fat equals 9 calories. So if you're getting 4500 cals a day, sounds like a whole hell of alot of carbs. Up the protein to at least 250-275 and make sure it's in 3 hour increments. Sounds like your metabolism is in overdrive trying to burn up all those carbs.
wow you really need to do alot of research you are by no means ready for gear and tren e is a enanathte ester there for two weeks of it is going to do nothing bro there is so much wrong with this