posted Sun, 12/11/2016 - 15:11
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Fkn hardcore cycle....24000 miligrams
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Actually when I write it like that it seems like a lot more then im taking....Dang!
600mg/w Test-e 1-16
600mg/w EQ 1-16
300mg/w Deca 1-16
50mg/d Tren-a 8-16
Ai if i need one....TRT when i come off.....simple and effective.....its a blend, one 3 ml shot a week....clean up my diet with some mail meal orders as i just dont have the time for meal prep.
Looking for a weight increase of 7-10 pounds and drop Body fat 3%....
Started it yesterday....
Starting weight 223
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well test kicked in a couple days back. So did the heartburn. and the stomach bloat, which is making food taste and look like shit. One of my problems with cycling, always curbs my appetite and makes gains hard, also makes it hard to feel great because im struggling with my food intake.
give me some suggestions, I had forgotten how bad this was...
Not advocating but depending on what state or legality; cannabis may help stimulate appetite.ginger root helps heartburn / acid reflux. Blend it in green shake in morning.
What about GHRP2?
I did take that stuff a few years ago and it gave me crazy stomach hunger. but didnt help with food tasting good enough to want to eat it.
I get hungry, but food doesnt sound good, doesnt taste good, and always seems dry. I been drinking water with every bite of food today. Once I chew it up, its hard to get down.
and because I get bloated as soon as I start eating it makes a meal really hard to get down....
Yeah, I get it. I know lately for me I have always had an iron gut but in the last month or so something has changed, acid reflux and heartburn constantly.
prilosec.....helps a lot with heartburn
I'm gonna have to give this a try. Heartburn and reflux have been killing me this run. If I eat a big meal I'm not digesting, and the burping is pissing my wife off.
Small meals all day long isn't as bad, but sit down for dinner with the family and I'm done.
I havent had heartburn once since I started taking it....
Yea, been eating them chewy tums when it gets bad. It seems to be improving a bit tho, it got ugly for a bit,twice I was in bed sleeping and acid refluxed upchucked into my mouth. Not a good way to wake up and frankly scared the shit out of me when it happened. I am hoping I am slowly returning to normal (iron gut) but who knows? The metformin worked but it has its issues.
It has nothing to do with aas for me, but I've had this same problem for years. Vomiting burning bile in a dead sleep. It's worse when it comes omes up with chunks of food, especially when it comes out my nose. I started daily generic prilosec a yr or so ago and it has helped tremendously. Much less of a problem unless I eat something extremely acidic or spicy. I can still do spicy hot foods, but I tend to take it to the next level and pay dearly for it.
I get it most cycles. I had forgot though. Hate it when I'm sleeping...
Ive been using liv 52, has increased my appetite alot, ten tabs a day and i cant stop eating. B vitamins milk thistle work also.
Merry Christmas! 229 pounds tonight! probably 225 in the morning....to much tri-tip and yams today! ....
I have been flirting with 240. I have been slowly leaning and slowly gaining.
RustyhookerMerry Christmas to you and yours
Merry xmas to you and yours too! Hope you keep updating regulary im intrested in this. Cheers
where the hell are you pinning 1500mg, that sounds mighty fucking painful!
cant say ive felt anything thus far, no pip whatsoever. Why would you think a 3ml glute shot would be painful?
Lol
You know its funny! everytime I take a little time off and run a cycle I get different sides and the compounds affect me different. Here I am 10 days into this, still not getting pumps, I certainly dont feel anything kicking in, yet yesterday and today I got deca dick....lol....dafaq
Thats interesting and weird, did you do an agressive front load like previous cycles? Deca is a strange drug sometimes, i ran an 18 weeker last year with deca at 600, deca dick was savage after cycle, but good whilst on works in mysterious ways good luck. Updates are awesome.
no front load. I was running 300mg test-e every 10 days as TRT. I know its not anything anybody would approve of, doesnt make sense when looking at plasma levels, but i cant tell any difference so i do what works for me....
So no frontload, just took 300mg test-e than 10 days later felt like it was time to start scheduling around my workout time and started cycle.
ive ran deca at equal amounts before and had no problems until 8 weeks into cycle. lol....
That is wild. With my TRT dose if I even go every 7 days I can feel a serious drop and more sides versus pinning 1/2 ml twice per week.
Sauron, I am the same way. I get moody and irritable if I go 7,8,9 days when on try. Sometimes, I just don't feel like pinning when I am supposed to.
Just started using test undec 2x a month with no peaks and valleys. Feel better than I have in years.
I think all the years of doing dope desensitised my body. its there but i cant tell unless its dramatic. at about 18 days with no test it really hits hard.
I cant tell the difference between 2000mg/w and 400mg/w....I either feel good or I dont. on or off...
Hmm, do you use any kind of ai? I would assume the deca would of awoken pgr, stimulated/ aggravated type thing, not long enough for it to rise yet, maybe just the binding process and body reacting with a bit of the ol deca dick lol and doing what works for you is the best way, you know how it is mate.
only on heavy doses I used to need a light dose of dex to combat a dime sized bump under nipple, normally came with D-bol and I think it was drol after about 1 1/2 months. I ran Ai as safety protocol for a long time than slowly dropped it until I realized I dont need them....Deca has, here and there, made it difficult to get off. So the magic still happens but i have to work much longer and really focuss as erection is not solid....I could easily use an Ai or cialis if I needed to, not much concern on my end, just noting that this run is starting off different than im used too...
Dbol and drol always give me nipple grief, nolva takes care of it but have to start at 60mgs for a week the 40mgs for a week then i stay at 20mgs thats only if i dont have a nandro in cycle or i use letro and caber, and i hear you on that, its good for the girl but fkd for us, i was making up excuses coz i couldnt be stuffed sweating it out for an hour, bjs would work as normal though.
I'd shoot it once a week, I can't tell the difference between twice or once. The less pins the better and 5ml is a walk in the part if you've got the muscle mass. Not a fan of blends however. Enjoy the cycle!
The only thing I would change up is split dosage into two pins a week...
Why not split that up into 2 shots. I always worry about that big slug of oil not sitting right and causing problems. If you are used to 3ml at a time then it probably isn't much of an issue I guess.
ever ran primo? I did a 16 week cycle, cant remember the mgs and compounds but similar to this and adding 800mg primo. 4 compounds, no blends, it was 5 1/2ml twice a week. no problem! 3ml cake walk....
I used to run split shots for the first few years, then moved into weekly and never could tell any difference. Ive read all about it, understand why to do it, but if i cant tell any difference and i dont care to pin more than I have too once a week is great..
Thanks for input...
Primo is my personal favorite. I respond well even at as low as 300ml per week with no negative sides.
give me some 400mg/ml and im in!...lol....ive got like 40 weeks worth of primo at 600mg/w but that shit is all 100mg/ml......
Yea, I know it sucks pinning that much oil. No getting around it unfortunately. But can you imagine how awesome it would be if they did make a high powered primo that didn't cripple you? LOL
All I am doing now is pinning 1.5ml of primo and a half ml of test c Sunday and Wednesday. 2ml twice a week is pretty doable.
Last prep cycle was primo. Ended up pinning 5-6 times/wk to get all the oil in. I just don't like pinning more than 2ml at a time. Once I start getting above that I start to get lumps that seems to last forever. It would be nice to pin more at a time but lumps and tenderness at the site make me pin lower amounts more often instead.
I used to get a lot of Knots, not lumps! lol...fuckers would last for months sometimes and i couldnt pin on the knot. Hated those damn things. shoulders give them to me the most but ive had them in glutes a few times. Hate that shit. So i hear ya, what ever it takes to make it work. Just done plenty of everyday, sometimes multiple times a day cycles. used be cool with pinning but over time seemed to have moved more into any area of dislike for it.
I think it depends on person, quality of gear etc, without mentions source name, only guy i usually use but for my last show, there was a 2 week period where I was still using eq and then started masteron, so I had test, tren, eq, and mast in one pin. Not proud of it, but took well in glute and thigh( i have alot of meat there) total was just over 4ml of oil. I usually like to stay below 3ml a shot though, or 1.5ml in delts or under. Delts are the worst for me. I could do 1ml and be worse then 4ml in my thigh.
Rustyhooker7-10 should be fun. You're no slouch in the gym. I used npp following your guidelines on timing and enjoyed it. (Week 2 til done) Faster hit and imo I felt a lot fuller. Deca at 300 seemed mild for me.
I'd multi pin just because smaller deposits, less hassles. I like it that way.
I'd you skip the npp you could always got drol first half but of course drop the rbc by donating. No noted by flash. You know the drill. Just depends on simple eat n grow or lil added extras.
You still up at 220 plus? Or leaned out?
im 223 this morning. I dont know how but i never lost much size....
RustyhookerEating right sure helps. If I'm stressed, I flat lose my appetite. I linger around 200 in the norm.
Good luck mate! Ive ran the same cycle- just watch blood pressure- mainly when the eq builds up rbc, other than that have fun and grow!
I'm doing something similar, but using bold cyp instead of eq and npp instead of deca. May I suggest using npp either the first 8-10 weeks or all the way through if you'd like. The eq is gonna take 8 weeks or so atleast to really shine and start building muscle, using npp means you can make some big gains during those first 8 weeks then either drop it and let the bold take over, drop the water from the nandrolone and dry out get that vascular hard dry look eq produces and make steady lean gains, or keep the npp in all the way or transition to deca after the first 6 to 8 weeks. Just trying to maximize gains and using something fast acting will let you start the cycle off very strong. Like I said I'm doing it now, im 5 weeks in, the bold is just starting to really kick but I've been growing like a week the first 5 weeks due to the npp and tbol I'm running. This nandrolone boldenone stack So far has been my favorite, huge hunger frkm the bold, vascular drier harder look from the bold, full muscles, lubed joints and quick gains from the npp, then I'll drop the npp around week 8 or 10, drop the water from the npp and dry out and make nice dry lean gains the rest of the cycle on just the test and bold and end up looking crisp dense and hard. Strength gains have been pretty damn good so far also. Sorry if this is unorganized, my suggestion would be to do either
100-150mgs of npp mwf the first 6 weeks while the deca builds up or
Just run npp the first 8 weeks until the eq kicks in and let that take over. Last option would be just run npp the entire time with your eq. I'm pinning it 3 times a week with my test and bold. I always pin npp this way it's half life is perfect for mwf pins.
Just noticed you said your using a blend, so not much you can do there. Idk, I just think the first 8 weeks of a cycle are the part when the biggest gains are made, receptors are freshest, body isn't used to the compounds yet so I try to really reap the benefits of the beginning of a cycle. Could still use npp to kickstart the deca, or use an oral kicker. Or just wait it out for the long esters to peak.
I have found that i actually like the middle of the cycle. which is funny as there was a time when i frontloaded practically everything. Now im just kinda slow and mellow is good....ive got probably 6 or so orals if i wanted to do any kind of kick start. but eh...