first time running hgh and aas
hi im new to e roids but i am looking for advice on an upcoming cycle.
i have cycled in the past with great results, i am great shape but want to get to to an unbelievable condition.
have cycled deca, sus, test e, prop, dbol all before.
i want to do hgh for 12 months and enter competition by 2015, i want to accompany the 12 months with 10 weeks on aas, 10 weeks off, 10 weeks and so on until the year is over.
wanting to start in the new year, will be purchasing hygetropin 25x8ius by the boatload and by my understanding 5ius daily with 2 days on, 1 day off 2days on, 1 day off is the best way to do it.
i will be running tren ace and test prop for the first 10 weeks (possibly change to another cycle through the year depending on my success).
im unsure at what dose to run the test and tren as so many conflicting views online, tren higher than test, test higher than tren or the same??
also been reading up on caber but am very unsure at how to run it??
should i run hcg thoughout my time on aas and hgh??
what pct should i use as want to get my natural test back to its normally high levels quite quickly to avoid the sluggish onslaught of coming off?
i have masteron, dbol and nolva on hand at the moment, will be ordering my growth within the next 2 weeks and also the tren and test.
should i just go with prop with tren or consider something else??
my stats are:
6'3
215
bf8-10%
28
the only sides i have encountered are testicular atrophy and severe acne(resulted in scarring which goes away when tanned)
all help, criticism and advice is much appreciated.
thanks guys
edit: open to add or take away anything to the cycle.
should also add, my diet is extremely on point.
looking to add as much solid mass as humanly possible whilst still keeping my bf low (arent we all?)
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waltrI don't know what kind of advice to give you really to be honest.
If you run tren:
From my personal experience with tren, if you have the goal of gaining size/muscle you're going to need to eat ALOT, like literally everything you see all day everyday.
If you just want to be around the same weight you're currently at, but leaner and more defined simply eat less food.
I've tried test higher than tren and the results were I got bigger, with test lower than tren i got leaner look that was more defined.
My point of being at my strongest overall was when I had a 2.5:1 ratio of test/tren.
That's my personal experience. As to what you should do I can't really say because I honestly have no fucking clue who you are or what your life is like and what your end goal is.
Hey Waltr,
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
My goal is to pack on as much size as possible. My diet is clean as hell, eating 7 times a day all large meals averaging 50g of protein per meal, a lot of complex carbs through the day ranging from brown rice, sweet potatoes and oats. I consume a lot of fibrous carbs along with these and cut down my complex carb intake In the evening.
my main protein sources are chicken, eggs, lean steak mince and fish.
Fats come from the eggs, meat, fish, avocados and almonds.
My diet in my opinion is near perfect.
I have hit 235 before but my fb was around 14%.
I would like to get to that size and weight agin but keep my bf below the 10 mark.
I was going to pin 100mg of prop eod along with 100mg of tren. So 350mg of each a week. You think I should change these ratios to gain a higher yield of gains.
Hi bro, how many cycles have you run before? I ask this as background to understand if Tren is going to be the right compound for you in your proposed 10 week short ester cycles. I run Hyges at 6 IU per day, 7 days / wk and it is a miraculous drug that really enhances your recovery and any AAS cycles you are running as well. I'm also a veteran Tren user as well, so I'm not a Tren "basher" either.
Hey man thanks for responding,
I've have ran 4 cycles in the past
Test e 10 weeks with 4 week dbol
Test p 8 weeks
Sus and deca 14 weeks
Tri test 10 weeks with 5 weeks dbol
Most recent was 5 week dbol, tri test and deca. 10 weeks deca 12 weeks tri test
I never really rated the deca or tri test.
I've seen amazing results of people using tren and feel now is my time lol.
When was the last time you had blood work done and have you recovered from your last cycle?
I know I will get slaughtered for saying this but I have actually never had my bloods done. I have always seen the doctor mid cycles and at the end of each cycle for a general health check and everything has always been fine in leighmans terms.
I just think it's one of those things that is truly important before starting a cycle and u should learn how to read an interpret you blood test as well.
See:
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/bloodwork-fro...