-1 FIRST TIME ORAL USER - PLAN FOR YOUR REVIEW
I need some advice as I’m starting out with Steroids for the every first time. More importantly I’ve seen lots of posts about first time use when it’s injectable but I will not be injecting. Can’t stand the thought. But happy to pop some tabs even though I know they’ll be worse for my liver!!
I was planning on trying a 2 week course of Anavar to see how my body reacts as a tester first.
I’m 43 5’8” fairly fit (have been hitting gym really hard all year after being laid up for two years with really serious back problems which needed lots of surgery. Over that time I lost lots of muscle mass (particularly on my legs as I couldn’t walk for 18 months). I’m 78kg with about 12-14% body fat and since Jan 14 I’ve put on 6kg of lean muscle but this is really hard to maintain and I can also see the BF % starting to edge up hence I’m turning to Oral Steroids to help maintain the gain and do some cutting.
I bought enough for a small test and a reasonably long cycles or 2 shorter ones (happy to take input on this). I have:
1 X Anavar 100 tabs 10mgs
2 x Oral Tren (methyltrienolone)
1 x CLOMIVER (Clomiphene Citrate)
3 x GP Proviron
1 x T3 (Tiromel)
1x TURINOVER (Turinabol)
If my 2 week Anavar test at 25 mg per day goes well I was proposing the following:
3 week cycle:
Wk 1-3 weeks of Oral Tren 500mcg (1 250mcg twice a day)
One week break then 16 week cycle overall including PCT and Cutting:
12 weeks overall steroid use:
• Wk 1-6 TURINOVER (Turinabol 30mg per day)
• Wk 6-12 Anavar 50mg per day
Weeks 6-12:
• Wk 6-12 Anavar 50mg per day
• WK 6- 12 GP Proviron
Week 12-16 PCT & Cutting:
Clom wk 12 -16
T3 wk 12 -16 Tiromel
Some of you are going to say ‘ is he mad!’ well it’s really hard to find good info on orals so I thought it best to layout a fairly longer term plan and let YOU the expert s tell me where I’m going wrong and I can refine. So looking forward to some helpful replies rather than some bad mouthing thanks
Sorry it’s a really long but hopefully interesting post to get involved in.
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I got nothing- you got a private organ stash we could tap into?
I see first time and oral tren. smh!! this is craziness, do yourself a favor and us here, dont do this, or any of this craziness, start over and spend time reading everything on here. get a new perspective and some education and than maybe than consider what you want to do.
If all of the health issues you would face isn't enough to deter you, perhapsthe fact that oral only cycles yield no lasting gains will. I've seen people run every combo of oral only cycle you can imagine and they seem to start losing any gains made right near the end of the 6-8 week cycle. it is not worth it in any way to run an oral only cycle especially not such an extreme one complete with thyroid meds.
This is bad...very very bad!
Ive readed your post... havent read the comments yet but im just guessing what ppl are saying!!!
Mate ORAL tren, t3?!? Proviron? nothing good comming! DONT DO IT!!!!
I assure you wont get the results you wishing to get..... you probably only get some serious side effects!!
DONT DO IT!!!
serious side effects?? really ?? LOL nah, wont have to worry about them after he kills the liver and kidneys with this combo. LOL craziness right??
A pills-only cycle? Hope you won't do this. The most people are doing the first cycle with pills, because they're afraid of needles. But believe us, this is the worst you can do. You will f#$k your liver!
So I hope the conclusion was that your not going to start this cycle. Be wise with your body, you only have one.
This is one of the worst ideas I've seen yet. Do not run this. One oral at a time and only to compliment a proper cycle.
Cycles of pills? HHHmmm. You know, a picture is worth a thousand words as they say. The following article would be a good read for ya, but click on it and scan to the pictures at the bottom first.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/too-much-oral-...
Good idea to post this...
RustyhookerDont run your proposal at all. Its all bad.
Get to your normal doctor and run a full blood test with hormones fully checked. Low natural test at our age can sliw you down. Where IF its needed, TRT alone woyld boost your youth. Bloods are needed as well so you know if your body can handle a cycle. High cholesterol is perfect example for roid use and heart attack.
Oh shit how did I miss this gem! Holy fucking hell, this has got to be top ten eroids worst proposed cycles! Go ahead and put in for that liver transplant now!
Simply!..... if you cannot handle the sting from a tiny pin you CERTAINLY cannot and will not handle the pain created by super intense training!!....... and if your answer is " i don't train with intensity"... you should not be even considering AAS.. PERIOD.
Lmfao!!
Well thanks! I'm new to this and had researched mainly via steriod.com and some of their videos by Jose Canseco. I then found eriods after I had ordered some products but didn't get the structure of the forums straight away as some of the security filters at work stop the site displaying correctly. I can no see that there is a wealth of information here for me to reasearch before I try any aas. As for training with intensity I certainly do have been hitting the gym VERY hard all year some weeks 3-4 hours a day and six days a week with mix of cardio and heavy weights training each muscle group twice a week. I was concerned about the risks of injecting eg: infection, injecting the wrong area etc but the info on the forums helps with this. The other reason oral seemed to make sense originally was that a lot of cycles showed using orals to kick start a cycle or as a bridge in between. So as my goal was around adding 6-8kg in weight and dropping body fat from 12-14% to ideally around 8% and then just maintain then one or two cycles or orals seemed ok with some t3 or clen to help with the cutting as at age 43 it's really hard to lose BF especially around the belly. I'm disappointed a others had suggested you can provide some sound advice about reducing BF the most helpful has been treadinontren who's given some really useful feedback and while I need to go back to the drawing board at least he's given me something to work with when the timing is right. Thought that was what this forum was about not just putting down new members that still have reasearch to do.
The thread itself says it all!............... do your thing! at the end of the day i don't care what damage you do to yourself.
I think your intensity is slightly different to mine.... lmao!
REALLY?........... 43 must be the bad age for belly fat huh?
Of course he was...... because he mentioned the use of two orals out of your stash and steered clear of pushing you towards the pin!!
juiceboxx1212Omg bro this is a trainer wreck before it even leaves the station. Listen to what these guys are telling you. It sounds like you just need to put in some gold ole hard work bro . For awhile at least. Come back to the idea of AAS in a year or two.
This cycle lacks research to say the least anavar tbol provi and t3...these compounds are no joke and basic rulw of thumb (throwing out the fact thay its an oral only cycle for one second) is one new compound per cycle...I personally would put the T3 to the side for now you are not ready for it...it can cause problems and you have not the experience yet...as for anavar its a great compound if yours is real...same with tbol although its not a beginner compound same with provi...long story short though oral only cycles aren't worth the health risk for thw gains you'll see...as stated below the right diet and supps will do the job without harming tour body! Stick to those until you're ready to pin a test cycle...my advice would be to hold on to everything for now (except maybe bin the t3...its not worth it) spend more then a yr back at the gym natty researcha true test cycle and maybe I a few years run a basic test cycle then if that goes well test and var then test and provi or tbol...the gear will keep for a while but this cycle is nonsense..due to be an oral only with sooo many new compounds for you...you litliterally have zero experience with any of them
You're starting to consistently give out good advice. Keep it up.
Thank you. This is really useful. beign new to eriods i was havign trouble seeing how the posts break up in subject areas but have got it now and can see there's lots of good info here. i reasearched other parts of the web without much luck. So I think more research and gym time as you suggest. However, Im really struggling to bring down my BF especially of the stomach any NON drug suggestions for that as nomral fitness mag stuff don't work which is what lead me to the orals inthe first place.
Yes sir it certainly gets harder as we get older to loose stomach fat try asking Viking for help...but AAS especially without proper guidance will only exacerbate the situation AAS usually make you gain weight not loose it especially if your cal intake in greater than cal output
This statements shows that you shouldn't be using any aas. Your attitude towards your own health is reprehensible. No one here will co-sign this cycle because it's dangerous and complete garbage.
You may not care about your health, but we actually do. Either man up or move on.
Thx I had good reason do to start injecting!! I've been on pain killing drug sfo rov er10 years and had load of ops adn only just got my body back this year. I've been takign hig h doses of fental which i'm neraly weaned off and given the amout of needles i've had in the last 2 weeks as par to of surgery and rehab then really wasn't keen to have more. So not about manning. you soon man up when you need to bring yourself back from 2 years without beign able to sit,stand and walk. Plus I wanted to run thorough the cycles i posted as a one off so another reason i didn't want to inject but given my age (43) and the fact i lost so mcuh muslce mass a one of course of orals seem to be the best thing to do..but hence posting before starting so i can take input from existing user.thx
That's actually a very good reason not to use pins if you're an ex addict just having pins in your home can be a temptation and if you know you're not ready more power to you...but this also meand you're not ready for AAS which is fine brotha it takes a few yrs for your body to reset from drugs take this time and enjoy life see where it leads you...do research. ..stick around we even have a few NA style lounges stick around and if you promise to bin this cycle idea and do some research ill give you back that karma point someone took away
These are all reasons you meed to retapout your natty potential brother afrer all that crazy stuff there's no way 1yr back your maxed out...and as a guy who still suffers from back injuries AAS especially without proper guidance and know how is a recipe to go too hard and eff your back up all over again...
All your gonna do is hurt yourself... Save yourself all the problems you are most certainly going to cause yourself and stick to OTC supps.
Thanks - it that even true of usign somethign 'mild' like Anavar?
Yes sir it is. Please take heed to what myself and especially the more experienced guys are going to tell you and stay away from this idea. Especially t3 and oral tren.
No oral steroid is "mild". Anavar can completely wreck you liver profile.