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First Test E cycle, thoughts on 300 MG per week?

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Going to be starting a cycle soon and I have all the necessary tools in place. I have my Armidex, Clomid, HCG (Don't think I will use it but I do have it), Nolvadex, and of course food and training.

Been reading a lot on Test E and I realize therapeutic dosage is around 100 mg a week. From what I have read, a person can do 200-600 MG per week and see significant gains. However, there are diminishing returns the higher you go (From what I read) to where the higher the amount, the less muscle increase while the amount of risk increases.

So I am wondering if there a "sweet spot" (And yes it could differ) -- I see some people instantly start out on the high end of 500-600 MG per week.

I am thinking of doing 300 MG per week. Has anyone done this type of dosage before? Any thoughts? I am just trying to figure out what could be best for me.

My cycle would be:

Week 1-10 300 MG a week split into 2 injections a week

Week 11-14 -- Clomid 100 MG a day for the first 14 days then 50 MG a day for the rest, Nolva 20 mg a day for the first 14 days then 10 mg a day for the remaining.

I have Armidex on hand in case of any sides appearing.

Edit: Or I could do 450 MG a week which would be .75 ML per inject

Stats Added:

Age 28 (Will be 29 on May 29th!)
Height 5'10
Weight 160ish (It can be 163-164 at times or 159 given when I last had a bowel movement)
BF: 9%

I can post a pic too (Of course no face) if need be. I am a 9% though I have gotten the bodpod air displacement test its fairly accurate.

5to5's picture

To answer your original question, I just finished PCT on a 10 week cycle of Test C at 280/mg week. This was my first cycle and was ran before I discovered eroids.

I gained 15 lbs by the end of the cycle and kept 9 lbs as of today (about 7 weeks after my last shot). I am pleased with the results, but I think the dose was a little low. If I had to do it over again, I would probably start with the standard first cycle recommend on these boards (500 mg/week).

Ultimus's picture

Thanks that helps a lot.

Ultimus's picture

Being my first time I already have my pre blood work done. I assume on a test e you wouldnt see sides till week 4 correct?

I plan to do blood work during the cycle to monitor and be safe.

My question is blood work cost. For my panel I went to Any Lab Test Now cost me over 500 dollars.

Is this a normal amount? Or can I get cheaper blood work?

White Bolt's picture

don't cheat yourself... at 300mg/w you won't be shut down any less than 500mg/w and your gains might be lacking... just go with the standard test E 500mg/week for 12 weeks

ive ran test at 210/week just as a maintenance dose while i ran tren, feel like 500mg/w is where the money's at as far as running test alone... just my two cents

Ultimus's picture

Makes sense thanks

Ultimus's picture

Thank you, I think I will up a little. I do want to avoid adding any other compounds though being my first time. Would rather play it safe.

robb's picture

That's probably ok but your not going to feel any effects for 2-3 weeks before seeing quality strenght increase.
I'm 18 days into a test cycle.
I'm doing 100mg eod of test prop & 500mg of test cyp.
I'm only using the prop for the 1st 20 odd days to give time for the cyp to kick in.
300mg is the lowest ive heard so if you wanted 500mg would be fine.
Good luck with it all, at least you got your pct at the start.

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Ultimus's picture

Well my ultimate goal is mass gain, strength is nice but I want to look a part sort to speak.

eatbig's picture

Most people run 500mgs of test e or c for their first cycle but 300 mgs a week is probably fine. More is not always better. Make sure you start your pct exactly 14 days from your last test e or c pin. You need to let that test clear out before you start pct. Your clomid dosage is fine but run nolva at 40 mg for the first 14 days then 20 mg for the next 14 days. Don't keep the Arimidex on hand for when sides appear, get bloods done to know where your at. If you don't do bloods during the cycle, by the time you realize you need an AI it will be too late and you will have lost time on this blast and could have other complications till you get it situated. Just my .02 from my knowledge and experiences. Oh and next time with post asking for cycle advise, put your stats up even though its posted in your profile Smile

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Yes will fix the original post for my stats. You suggest the 40/40/20/20 regardless of dosage I assume? (On the Nolva)

Also I have my pre-blood work done -- I assume get my cycle blood work done at week 4 since you won't notice TEst E kick in till then?

eatbig's picture

Yes I would do a strong nolva dosage at 40/40/20/20 and clomid at 100/100/50/50. Even a low dose 500 mgs a week test e only cycle will shut your natural test production down and you don't want to skimp on the very important PCT. I would try to get bloods done somewhere at least after week 4 when the test e kicks in. If you have any questional doubt throughout cycle doubt then bloods will show you where your at. I had very high estrogen on my last cycle and didn't know it till I seen my bloods and it all made sence once I seen the numbers.

Ultimus's picture

How high was your estrogen? I assume regardless the estrogen will be fairly high since test will be and the body will try and balance itself. How much higher was yours?

eatbig's picture

I was about 5 times over the high range of normal levels. My bloods pics are in my profile pics if you wanna check them out. I started to notice I wasn't strong like I was at the beginning of the cycle and I was really moody like a girl LOL. Shittiest part was my dick didn't work for a while till I got my estrogen in check. I was afraid it was prolactin related which could make your dick limp for 1-2 years. I was running 750 mgs of test e with 500 mgs of deca. I feel like that cycle was wasted and I really should of ran lower dosages.