First REAL consult with Eroids community
Ok guys here we go. 25, 215, 6’, 15%. Three cycles. Two were test E and EQ with very very limited PCT at age 19 & 21. The last one was test prop for ~10 weeks pinning EOD with Asin 6.25 ED week 2-5 when I added Proviron 50 mg ED to try out. I dropped Asin to 6.25 EOD/ E3D depending on how I was feeling (I think both the Proviron and Asin were inconsistent dosage wise). PCT started 3 days after last injection and I went ahead and did 6 week PCT (since my others were pathetic) of 100/100/50/50/50/25 and 40/40/20/20/10/10 with Asin EOD weeks 1-3. Also used HCG 500/ week beginning week 9 through week 3 of PCT.
I got pretty good results. My diet wasn’t completely perfect and I was scared to eat too much because I literally can eat like a horse. I had to lose some fat before I started and I didn’t want it to come back. I gained a little under 10 lbs and that was with cardio at least once per day and Olympic movements 2-3x week, isolation day/ bodyweight 1x week.
Currently I am honing in the diet (premaking all meals 30/50/20 2800 cals) and trying to maintain size/ strength while cutting off some extra fat. My earliest cycle start time is In 3 weeks but I am planning waiting until Jan 1 (resolution cycle). So, all that to say I am building my cycle and would like some input. First, any glaring mistakes with last cycle? I definitely learned a lot, esp about listening to my body and pinning all the sites (I did quads, glutes, delts, pecs, traps).
Second, I am debating compounds. I have used Test E, EQ, Test Prop and Proviron. I like EQ (RBC, joint aid, lean gains) but would go with Bold CYP if I add EQ (cycle won’t be long enough otherwise and i would like my system to be completely rid of compounds when PCT ends). I am also interested in Masteron and Primo. Currently Im thinking 12 weeks 400mg Test E (frontload then 2 pins/ week) with a Prop taper, Bold CYP 400-600mg (frontload then 2 pins/ week) and 400mg Mast weeks 6-12 (debating enanthate vs prop). Of course Aromasin, Clomid, Nolva, HCG and I am going to add HGH 2iu/ morning during PCT (min 4 weeks).
My main question is would it be better to add Primo instead of the Boldenone CYP & Mast? I have also considered Dbol kick, drop EQ (since 12 weeks is kinda short) and keep the Mast. I have confidence with the Mast because I have used the prop ester and I used Proviron. I realize this isn’t exactly the same. I also requisitioned bloods today just to make sure everything looks G2G (baseline).
I will be participating in offseason Rugby training while on cycle. I would love to be sitting at 230 with 10-12% next summer for sevens season. Next fall will be the last opportunity to play intramural rugby, so after that I would love to compete in either Bodybuilding or powerlifting but keep playing organized. Hope I have given you enough (and not too much) info. Sorry this is so long and I appreciate anyone taking the time to read this.
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AnonGood info bro that's really helpful when giving advice. Personally off the bat lets throw away the primo idea. Too costly for anything non competitive Bodybuilding related. So blah Primo is dead. Let's walk away;)
TestE is a great base. Frontloading in my experience has only confused my body a little too much for my liking. The saturation from a frontload simply will never be as pure to me as a TestProp kick start. Drop the frontload and add a 150mg eod TestP kick start for the first 4 wks.
EQ cyp. I like the half life for any EQ
Cycle that's short in EQ standards. 12 wks will be perfect. Dosage? Well common EQ dose doesn't change with the Cyp ester. 600mg a week is perfect for someone ur experience. Some might think 400mg of EQ is enough but I wouldn't waste my time with anything less than 600mg.
This is where it's tricky. For an experienced user going upwards of a gram of AAS is regular but for less experienced users it's heavy. For those who aren't years into this lifestyle it's really hard on the body. So adding Mast to TestE and EQ would push you over the gram mark.
Likely dosages for the TestE would be 400-600mg a wk. the EQ is 400-600. Add another 400mg of MastE a wk is a lot. So I'd recommend you consider two options. One is replace the Mast with Proviron. Same concept of hardening and anti estro bennies. Or secondly you could drop the EQ out of the cycle and run MastE and TestE.
Orals. This cycle is lean mass all the way. So Dbol is basically the antithesis of Lean Mass. So that leaves you with a few options. Anavar/Tbol/Winny.
I'd run this cycle if I were u.
TestE 600MG 12 wks
MastE 400mg 12wks
Anavar 50-100mg 6wks (depends on your body)
Run a low dose of Aromasin daily when u get E2 sides which should be extremely low or start around wk4-5.
Focus on Eating enough lean meats like chicken and fish turkey but also add red meats and long burning carbs. Oats n Sweet Potatoes Brown rice. Train big and intense. The gains will come but they'll stay lean and RBC loaded for those rugby games.
Like I said there's options brudda. Build the cycle to what suits you and your goals. Nail down ur goals and the compounds/cycle follows suit
Anon+3
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Thanks for posting bro you gave me some great info. I still have some thinking to do, however, your info has provided several key decisions. I do think a prop kick will be the way I go and will limit to two oils. Anavar vs Tbol is on my mind as well as Boldenone vs Mast. Too many people have had great experiences with all of these compounds.... guess because its all abt training and diet :). Thanks again for responding and for all your great advice
AnonAbsolutely brother. I love talking shop and helping where I can. If u ever need anything by way of advice or simply an ear to bounce ideas off of shoot me a PM. Sometimes we already know what we intend on doing but having a second opinion goes a long way.
RustyhookerPerfect advice!
^^^THIS