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+ 1 First Forum Everyone thanks for the help

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So I'm 31 yrs old 5'10" 205 lbs and between 8.5% and 9.5% BF. I'm getting ready to start my next cycle which is going to be 600mgs of test E and 400 Mgs of Tren e a week. I also have100- 25 mg anavars to throw in this cycle just to switch it up from my last. Just wondering what you guys opinions on when and how much anavar to run. Thanks

freedom1981's picture

from looking at your photo. i think your are not ready for tren e and you have to tell what is your cycle history,

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Gpkinder's picture

1 cycle previously which was

Weeks 1-12 test e 500 mgs

Weeks 1-12 tren e 400mgs

Pct weeks 1-3 clomid 50mgs

Weeks 1-4 nolvadex 20 mgs

I know your thinking "What The Fuck" you took tren e your first cycle. Yes I did, no it was not a.great decision but I went into the cycle naive, the guy I bought the gear from said to me " do you want to look like Fight Club or Terminator. I choose Fight club and he gave me tren. But I weathered the storm and got great results which is why I'm planning to run it again only this time I'm here for suggestion and critique. Which I appreciate yours as well.

Gpkinder's picture

Just posted s few pics and pic of scale for all who doubted

Catalyst's picture

Assume you've seen the responses here:

https://www.eroids.com/pics/pre-cycle-0

Gpkinder's picture

Yeah I did I'm not sure what to say though, I can only put what the scale says! No reason to lie! Maybe the pic just doesn't do my size justice?

Catalyst's picture

Have to say I agree, you look a lot lighter than 205. Maybe the pic as you say. The camera makes you look lighter and younger, you'll be grateful for that in a few years ;)

Gpkinder's picture

Yeah I'm not complaining that's for sure. Thanks for the heads up though!

Catalyst's picture

I think what you need to take on board irrespective of pic weight etc is you're proposing cycles that are way more advanced than you need. If you're going to run gear, all you should be looking at in my opinion is a basic test cycle.

Gpkinder's picture

Thanks everyone for the critique and suggestions!! Will step up the dreads and squats and keep everyone posted

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

You see those abs on your Avi/picture.............. what they tell me is that they are not used to much in the way of heavy compound exercises..... this is why i ask a lot for piccies because i can read a body and tell how hard a person works just from the condition of the Core........ what you have there is basic skeletal muscle, if they were forged through heavy long term lifting they would be thick and you would be able to flex them just like do a bicep or any other developed muscle.

Not having a pop at you bro...... its simply an Observation that other readers can learn from..... check out my pics for comparison to see what i mean..... mine look like 6 separate bricks, i know i am speaking from a competition stand point but its something you may want to adopt to give a more defined core to your
physique.

Thank you for posting the pic it makes a hella difference chatting to guy when in know how he looks :).................... +3 karma for that.

Gpkinder's picture

Thanks for the suggestion and criticism, I'm hear to learn so I'm not going to get offended! Any exercises you can recommend to focus on core than just the usual planks and things you read about

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

planks and all that other fancy stuff is alright for detailing when the ab slab has been laid down by hard heavy large muscle compound exercises like makwa says........... big exercises that hammer the whole body is what we hit for growth................ everything else, and i mean everything!.... is for fine detailing.

Squats, deads, big benching, big pressing, big curling...... the basics is what builds gnarly thick muscle............. isolation moves have there place but only bring them out when the foundation has been built from concrete first................... i NEVER train Abs unless i am contest prep.......... the rest of the time they get hammered through ass gripping intensity.

Another +3 for taking my comments like a Man........... Bro Fist!

Makwa's picture

Abs aren't built by doing planks and crunches, the best and thickest ones are actually built with moving lots of iron during deadlifts and squats and even bent over rows with your planks and whatnot adding the refining touches.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Boooooooooooooom!!! +3

Makwa's picture

I always get a blank stare when someone asks me what to do for abs and tell them deadlifts. lol

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

lol yeah!......... ive been asked if i do crunches and stick twists all day!........... im like WHAT? Hahahaaaaa

Catalyst's picture

I think you're running way too much gear considering where you're at in terms of development. Need to slow yourself down.

You really 31? That picture looks young to me. Take that as a compliment if you really are ;)

Gpkinder's picture

32 in July!! Thanks brother!!

Makwa's picture

What is your goal for this cycle? Have you ran any previous cycles? What is your pct?

Gpkinder's picture

Do my overall goal is to harder and more defined I want that dry detailed for the summer, my pct will be a standard clomid 50 Ed for three weeks and nolvadex for a month. This is my second cycle . First was 500 Mgs tester and 400 Mgs Tren e per week.

Makwa's picture

If you are already sitting around 9% I don't think you can realistically expect to maintain much lower than that. It is very difficult to start getting lower than that. To do so you are going to have to cut carbs and guess what happens when you do that.....you flatten out. You will probably look better at 9% where you are at now than if you start dropping more fat. My best beach body is around 9-10%. Lower than that carbs are cut and I flatten out, doesn't matter what drugs you are on. Yeah I do get down to 5% or less, and I will look great for basically 1 day then. I don't think your choice of compounds is a good match for what you are looking for, tren surely seems out of place here along with that high dose of test. Do you have a pic you can put up?

Keep the diet tight and run mild cycle with some hardeners and you should be all set.

Gpkinder's picture

Just posted a pic I think my main goal is to get my lower abs more exposed and just to have all around more definition

Makwa's picture

Thanks for the pic. In all honesty you are pretty slim right now and I would hate to see you cut much more. You'll end up looking what I call skinnnyfat. A cutting cycle right now isn't going to do anything for you. Hammer out those abs to build them up so they show. If they aren't popping at 9%, knocking off more BF isn't going to make much of a difference except make you look smaller overall. You need to build them up just like any other muscle to get them to pop. I don't think cutting much more BF is really going to make them pop much more if the mass for them isn't there in the first place. You are in pretty good shape right now and I know alot of guys would love to have the abs you do have now, so I hope don't take all I said as cutting you down because I wasn't. Just trying to give you my honest opinion so you have an idea where to go and focus your efforts....you need to put some meat on you so scrap all this cutting cycle nonsense. I'm the kind of guy that will tell my friend he is not ready for the stage when everyone else tells him he looks great. I'll be the one he is thanking then to keep himself from getting embarrassed.

Gpkinder's picture

How do I post pic my IG is censored if you can just look there

tonytulo's picture

Wtf is wrong with you posting that shit on here? The idea is to remain anonymous....

Venemy's picture

Hey man, just a heads up, giving your IG info out is bad in my opinion. EDIT: Mod took care of it.

Pericu's picture

You did Tren E on your first cycle?! Holy fuck...you really like russian roulette, don't you?

Gpkinder's picture

I went into my first cycle naive and taking the advice from a guy who was complete uneducated. Fortunately I made it out the other end of a 12 week cycle with minimal sides. But in here in this forum because I don't want to make the same mistakes.

Pericu's picture

Yeah, you name it. You can be happy that you haven't experienced any severe sides. Could have been one hell of a trip, I swear.

Other than that, Makwa just did a great reply!

Whitetrash's picture

X2

To the OP how long has it been since your last cycle - have you fully recovered with bloods to back that up?

Gpkinder's picture

Last pin was 1/1/16. Next cycle start date hope is 4/1/16, as long as labs are good which I have a 3/10/16 appointment for. I know this thread might seem early just want to make sure I have all my ducks in a row come April!

madman's picture

Welcome to Eroids. For your safety if that is you in your avatar I would edit out your face.

Gpkinder's picture

Found a pic with no face thanks for the heads up

Gpkinder's picture

It is my face do u know how to edit and turn the photo

madman's picture

Cool, you did it.