posted Wed, 01/25/2012 - 17:31
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mid 30s first cycle. respond great to diet and weights. then y do a cycle? same reason we are all here! always wanted to and ready to do it, want to experience the big strength increase and added mass. that is my goal is strength/size.
diet will be quite clean with 2g protein/lb bw, 2g carb and 1g fat...mainly chicken, fish, sweet potato, veggies (mixed), nuts, omega 3, cod liver oil, multivitamin, multimineral, 1 gal h2o daily...
test e 600mg/wk 13 wks
EQ 500mg/wk 12 wks
aromasin as needed
clomid 14-17
considering test p 100mg eod first 2 weeks or dbol 25-50mg/day first 4 weeks. however predisposed to acne so up in air bout the dbol. comments suggestions welcome.
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That's a solid cycle bro. I would run Dianabol the first few weeks at 50mg a day as opposed to Test P. Let us know how it goes. I have been curious about EQ and have thought about including it in my cycles.
mid, as in right in the middle...35
5'9 195-200 not sure on bf but under 20, have a blue collar job work hard. certain parts of my body are stronger more mature muscle due to this (forearms, back, legs) HOOKED! lol thats cool if i like it so be it if not ok too. test only seemed the way to go but then i get all antsy wanting to blow it up. thanks for the input. ill post progress once i get my gear, not just written but pics also, you guys can hold me to it!!
tread-mGood call I think...Are you saying test only? That way you learn the compounds one at a time and what they do and the art of tweaking your body in this way or that way and you know when you need this or that and learn when to drop this or that. All sorts of little things you learn that make up a much better builder when you get some time under your belt. Besides all that, the test only will be very good to you never having ran gear, will be the best cycle you ever run if you do it right and control the goal with diet and quality.
sounds good thanks. the antsy part i spoke of is waiting 3 or 4 weeks to really feel my test kick in. but its good ill probably have a big high til then anyway just knowing im on it. placebo effect if you will. curious (because of your avitar) how much test gorillas have in their system...so huge and naturally strong. way off course just interesting.
X2 on everything. If this is his first cycle than test only it is. My first non trt dosage was test cyp@400mg/wk. Dayumm was it awesome. Shot had me running 10k twice a wk and had me running up the walls thru the walls. Truly was the best I've ever felt on gear. And as u know I've fallen trap to the gluttony gear can cause. More and more and more. What a waste it was. Body looked great but the sides and emotional and mental chaos was not worth it. As Sarge said below, the turtle always wins! That turtle is a bad mutha:)
@popcornpenny u can't go wrong listening to the guys here given u advice. Tread is who I go to for it so listen to what the man has to say. Happy gaining!
sgtstedanko1st of all brother. What's your height, weight, & bf? Mid 30s, 35? That being said, if you've always been infatuated w/aas. You're pretty much fucked! After your 1st, you'll be hooked. Remember to take it slow. & actually come off of proper cycles:) Be the turtle...
tread-mITS A TEST ONLY FOR ME...If somehow age allows you to bypass some of the learning your body and compounds one at a time then I guess I'll rethink it.....ok, rethought it, test only. Lol. Good luck brother.
Anonfor every 5 years pass 25 I add 1-2 compounds they're eligible for..
just wait till a 50 year old comes on here
Anonagreed, as did I.. Ive never had to go over like 500mg in a cycle.. I would definitely opt away from the dbol and stuff too.. either Test... test E/P or TestE/EQ
not sure if ill ever have a full grasp of every aspect of this game but research? yes, ive read and reread for years on and off. y ask questions then? well because its like a lot of things in life that make sense and seem easy when someone else is doing it...they are just that! easy until you start to do them for yourself...for me anyway. i start to question my thoughts and ideas etc. so there is a big diff in reading vs actual discussion with people like you guys that have been there done that so-to-speak. thanks
thanks joose, another side note is i am pretty boring capable (in terms of diet) i can eat the same thing, and have, forever it seems. once i get going i get to craving whatever it is im eating, be it junk or good. also miggymig i appreciate the input and i value the idea of the test only cycle. as far as dbol i just have always had this infatuation with it so forever it seems ive wanted to get down on some! thanks again.
Anonwith his age, a proper dosed Test/EQ would be good.. at least its fairly visible he did some research, compared to what we normally deal with.
thanks ca thought mine was pretty basic...but if the test alone would be better im all for it. ive got friends doing 5 and 6 compounds first cycle, seems illogical to me. but going with your suggestion would that be stay with the test e at 600mg/wk for 12 wks? or something diff? thanks
sgtstedanko5-6 compounds 1st cycle, & that seems logical to you! Wtf! Do you guys take the short bus to the gym together, or what!? : ( you're not anywhere near logical then brother...
u misread....first sign of short bus rider...which is offensive in nature btw...i said ILLOGICAL
sgtstedankoI did, didn't I : ( sorry about that. Thanks for clarifying. Now I don't think you're not ready for your cycle. Oh, we wouldn't want to hurt anybody's feelings. God forgive me. I honestly don't give a fuck if I offend anyone. No brother, I didn't ride the short bus. I'm just on my phone, doing 3 things at once, & tired. Sorry for not reading gooder. Enjoy...
ur the best. i can tell.
tread-mLmao...I told you phone in one hand and lotion in the other is an art mastered (bated) over time! No homo
sgtstedankoYeah well, you try that with lotion on both hands{otherwise one gets jealous} :( While speak to texting on the phone, typing on the computer, yada, yada, yada. Someday, I'll get the hung of it:D No Homo...
Anonin my opinion, given your age and apparent/partial research.. a Test/EQ cycle is well within your boundaries.. don't touch the dbol or prop though, and don't be like your friends lol!
Anonill spring and say good to go with the idea of EQ/Test only because you not only listed your stats and are well of age, but you listed your diet as well!!! very refreshing brother..
Keep aromasin on hand, and I would run it during your PCT
14-18 at 12.5 Mg per day
Clomid-100/100/50/50
so, change your post cycle to 4 weeks instead of 3.
Dont do prop or dbol.. a nice EQ/Test cycle is more than enough for your first cycle.. slow and steady my friend.
other than that, looks good
disclaimer for those of you who read my shit know I'm all for the standard Test E for the first run.. but with his age and understanding of a diet.. I think a test/EQ would be appropriate.
gotta agree with hardcore.
Test E or C 300-500mg a week 10-12 weeks
Adex .25 EOD
Nolva clomid PCT
trust him he schooled me on cycle advice