First cycle, Test E 400 for 12 weeks or 500 for 10 weeks?
Hi all, this will be my first ever cycle! I've done so much research on gear and pct i feel like I am almost ready to begin my first cycle. I bought some s-drol because some others were doing it, but after a lot of reading i've decided to put that on the shelf for now, and just to stick with a simple Test E cycle to begin with. I already have my anciliaries on hand as well.
Stats:
25
170
5'9
14-15% bf
training 2+ years consistently (only stopping when sick).
Diet in check. No drinking, sodas, junk.. just ate dinner: spinach, brown rice, chicken, 2x hard boiled egg.
I want to take it to the next level because I'm serious about this, but I still have a few lingering questions. Main one is:
Would you recommend running test E for 10 weeks at 500 or for 12 weeks at 400? For a first timer.
I'd be pinning 2x a week ofcourse, mon/thurs. running 12mg eod aromasin (pubertal gyno still there, so i'm guessing my estro receptors are pretty strong lol)
PCT starts 2 weeks after shot: clomid 75/50/50/25 ed
aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5 ed
Got letro if things get bad.
Other questions I have:
Should I use the aromasin right away? or wait till around week 3 when levels get high?
Should I continue the aromasin for the 2 weeks between cycle and PCT?
Since I am succeptable to gyno, should I use Nolva during PCT? As I hear it targets those specific receptors?
Thanks guys. Glad I found this site. Any input would be helpful.
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One more lingering question (I'm like a sponge to information right now lol). Would a higher mg per ml of test yield better results? or does the concentration not matter so much? Also, is the glute the best place for test e or will delts do just fine?
A 10 ml bottle for test e 500, is 500mg of test e per ml. This would equal 2, 10ml bottles of test e 250. Higher concentrations do not yield better results. 500mg of test it 500 mg for test, regardless of how much oil there is.
You tend to get more pip (post injection pain) with higher concentrations but this isn't always true. It depends on who's making it and what compounds are in it. Sort esters tend to hurt more.
Stick to glutes rotating each side for long esters as I imagine you are only injecting twice a week.
Thank you all for the replies! So better PCT would be clomid 100/100/50/50, nolva 40/40/20/20, and aromasin 12.5 eod/12.5 eod/6.25eod/6.25/eod. I see and also run it for the 2 weeks inbetween pct and cycle.
Any other thoughts on which cycle looks better? I may wait another year as some here have mentioned, to see if I can still get more gains, but I have noticed them slowing down lately.
If your really gonna wait bro that will just benefit you more so just think about it cuz at the end of the day none of us can hold u back from using gear.
Heres how your first cycle should look like bro.
Week 1-12 Test E 500mg a week split dose Mon250&Thur250.
Ai- Aromasin 6.5 ED (starting week 3) all the way up to PCT and through PCT.
Bump Aro up to 12.5mg if you need too.
Start PCT 15 days after last Test E shot.
Clomid-100/100/50/50
Nolva- 20/20/10/10
Aromasin 6.5 ED.
I agree put a few more years of work in but on the same note good job on waiting til you are 25. I know the feeling of having your heart set on running a cycle. Hell we all do. I would say listen to everyone's advice then make a decision. The one thing that is great about running a cycle is that you know what you have invested and guys tend to put in work, diet better and train and really get to know what you are capable of after your first cycle. Just be safe brother and get it all figured out before you start.
IMHO i agree with Massive... have you tried the small things first creatine,pre-post work, etc?? 2 years and you're still training your body.. Im not trying to tell you what to do.. but you will have better results after you've push your body to its limits.. 2years is not too shabby.. PM and i can give some things to try if you like... If not its cool too bro!
If you feel like its your only option, stick with the test first! also be sure to monitor everything your first time (blood pressure, temp, etc... ) Hope that helps!
IMHO bro, you have alot to gain still you barely have "2 years training" and you wanna start a cycle?...bro cmon get diet on point and train hard for a few more years and then start your first cycle bro, aas aint no joke.
PCT is off also.
Good choice to run the Test E alone as a first cycle. I think that you can run the 10 weeks at 500 or the 12 at 400. basically you are gonna see how your body responds to test. that is why people advocate, 1 compound at a time thus if you have an adverse reaction you know which compound it's from. Also the Aromasin 12.5 EOD is good. PCT I think 100 100 50 50 is a better bet and since you said you have existing pubertal gyno, Nolva at 40 40 20 20 standard issue run the Aromasin through PCT 12.5 12.5 EOD 2 weeks then 6.25 EOD last 2 weeks. Good luck and keep us posted. Yes wait until week 3 to start AI SINCE YOU are using Test E. As for Pct use the Ai during the 2 week hiatus from last shot to PCT. I think that you will be fine running this.. If you believe your body has reached it's natural potential this isn't a bad first cycle just rework the PCT as specified. Any more questions?