First cycle ever: Test E only cycle
Hi! After reseaching here (thanks to all of the help on these forums) and other places I think I'm finally ready to start. I do just have a few questions on AIs and PCT.
About me: 26 y.o., 5'8", 175 lbs, 10% BF. I've been training for 6 years, I'm very active (in the gym 5-7 ways/week). My goal is to add on lean mass, going for a clean bulk. My current training/diet seems to be working but I feel like I'm peaking.
My first draft would be this:
Weeks 1-12: 500mg Test E EW; Split to two injections
Weeks 1-12: AI- 0.5 mg Arimidex eod (need some help adjusting this)
2 weeks for the Test to clear
Weeks 14-16: 40mg Nolvadex ed; 100mg Clomid ed
Weeks 16-18 20 mg Nolvadex ed; 50mg Clomid ed
So basically the questions are about the following, since I have found different opinions:
Aridimex: dosage?
Is Clomid necessary?
Is HCG necessary? What would be the dosage?
Sorry if I've said something terrible, I'm still new to these things
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I agree with the post below. At your stats you should be bulking and not worrying about the elusive and mystical "clean/lean bulk". Post the diet up. Current and planned calories and macros and sources of food. Per the below in sure you can do more natty with some tweaks here and possibly training before hopping on a cycle.
Now as to the cycle spot on with running single company test e only cycle for your first one. But before you even go there please please please get some pre cycle blood work done to establish your base line. Week 5 of your cycle pull bloods and this will tell you of an AI is needed and you dose from there if it is. Can also look into Aromasin as an alternative and slightly more forgiving AI in my opinion.
Hopefully you keep engaged in this and let's explore some natty tweaks bedore you do actaully cycle.
Boooom +3 lets have you level1 bro
Hits for the guys below too
Cheers bro!
Congrats brother. I also completely agree with your above post - what's a lean bulk I say!
Thanks bro. Lol indeed. It's one of the things I've learnt and learnt it here. There ain't no such thing. Don't bulk if you're not prepared to gain some fat. And that's where it starts to get more interesting. How much is too much? Well there is no standard answer and like most things in this game everyone will be different and needs to figure that out for themselves. What works and what doesn't. Hell I'm doing it everyday. Another reason why a test only cycle for first cycle is so important. It's not just seeing how your body reacts (sides etc.) to the compoind but if you're bulking and doing that properly it's about how you react and feel about it to the food and aas synergistically combined. For example if the op picks 12 weeks and gets to the end and says oh well I put on too much fat but at 10 weeks was just right then he's learnt something or perhaps it's I got to 12 weeks but know 2 more would have been perfect he's learnt something etc. Sorry for the long post lol - but it got me thinking so thought I'd put pen to paper so to speak.
I think how much is too much depends on each individual's diet and training at the core. Some people may want to do the whole bullshit "lean bulk" because they're using AAS as a crutch for an already shit diet... Lean bulks IMO are for the pros who already have their physique at almost perfection and just need to dial in a little more "pop" so to speak. Lean bulking for your typical user is more of a code word for "I don't want to pack on too much BF% because I won't be able to diet right and get it back off."
I myself am not afraid to get into the low 20% BF when I'm running a bulk, vacuuming everything in site. I don't train to achieve a BBer physique, but I'm also not afraid to pack on a little more fluff and then shed it down the road when I hit my targets. I may be part of the younger generation, but I prefer the old school methods of "do it either or, not both at one time." And to this day, like you, I'm still growing and learning from every bulk I run, and every cut/reset I do. It's all part of the experience really.
Yes exactly I 100% agree. My question was more rhetorical and the examples I gave were just illustrating the point. Everything you have said is exactly spot on in my opinion. Too many people these days get to 10% BF say they're going to bulk and all of a sudden go to 12% and freak out. Bulk I say if you've been at 10% before you can get there again. The only thing to consider is around how hard it may be to loose the fat again. I'm almost 41 now and it certainly is a bit harder for me to get the fat off than it was say even 5 years ago. So for me I think about this when planning my bulk, setting my calories, macros and duration. I'm still bulking make no mistake but I don't "go for it" like I would have 10 years ago and keep it pretty clean. But this is what everyone needs to learn for themselves. First timers with youth on their side, low body fat should really be smashing the food hard and enjoying the ride safe in the knowledge that they can cut back after to show off the extra meat they've laid on following a proper bulk through to the end. +1 fella. Really enjoyed reading your reply. Young old school indeed :-)
It's when you pussyfoot around stuck in a purgatory of not really making legitimate gains, just to say you have ripped abs for Christmas.
Clean bulk for 1st cycle? Don't short yourself! Bulk bigtime!
Regarding the AI dosage, that's something you will have to dial in with bloodwork. You'd want to start off at .25mg EOD or E3D and adjust from there as necessary, better to not tank your estro with too much than to manage minor sides and get them under control IMO.
At 175, I do believe you can put on more weight naturally before hopping on cycle. Post up your diet so we can get a closer look.