posted Sun, 08/18/2013 - 09:34
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First cycle coming up, Calorie and protein questions.
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Ok, so first post and first question. I started at a almost 40 yr old, 198 lb, at 5'9". I was out of shape and feeling old.. I decided to start working out and watching my weight. Now 6 mos later I'm 165 lb and of athletic trim build. I am going to begin my first cycle (after months of reading forums, blogs, and excreta), but I want to know. For a bulking cycle, what would be a good calorie and protein intake for a average to above average metabolism? I am starting my cycle in about a month and don't want to waste my money on gear if I am not eating properly for it and don't get results. Thanks for any advice.
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Thanks for all the encouragement guys. It was rough at first, but my god I found out I loved it!!! Ok MedDx here's the first as I have researched for me. This seems to be the most blogged and forum responses for a simple, safe first.
week 1-10 Test 500
Weeks 1-6: 30mg of Dbol per day ( I voted for this myself as a stack option) Think it's too much to soon?
Weeks 1-12: .5mg of Anastrozole EOD
Weeks 4-12: 500iu's of HCG
PCT
Week 1&2: Nolva @ 40
Week 3&4: Nolva @ 20
* I'll be taking cranberry extract throughout and generic testosterone booster from week 9 to week 16 to try and see if I can restart the process and keep more gains.
Any criticism or advice on this would be appreciated.
Run your Test 12wks. Technically, holding off on the methandrostenolone would be the right thing to do, since it is your first cycle. But, it's not too much, either. You will just have more estrogen in your body. The AI can be started within the first three weeks anywhere between .25-.50 mg eod. You could probably hold off on the hCG, until you run a 19-nor compound. 18 days after the last injection, PCT should be Clomid (100/100/50/50) and Tamoxifen (40/40/20/20). What is the testosterone booster have in it? Tribulus?
Med I appreciate the info and the generic booster has rhodiole extract @ 366 mg and boron citrate @ 100 mg. I know it's generic and I'm looking for a boost to jump start the production system again. Don't know if there is anything else out there that can do it without screwing with the liver / kidneys recovery. Your intake is at 4 capsules a day and is suppose to provide 20 mg of active boron. Though TBH I have seen no clinical studies on it.
No problem!! I will do some research on that type of a booster. Some people are sensitive to those boosters when combined with clomiphene and tamoxifen, especially tribulus, not sure about rhodiole.
I was 50 when I got tired of being fat (251) at 5'6" tired, and no energy. I trained my ass off for 2 years, dropped down to 185 and started living life again. I have trained off and on for 30 yeasr and this time it was harder than ever. One day I decided that I wanted to see just how big an old man could get so I dove into the research. By the luck of the gods, I found eroids and have been hooked ever since. I have learned so much by reading many posts and communicating with some of the members. There are so many members willing to help and assist with what ever your goals may be. So my advise to you is to keep up all of the good hard work and reach out to the many members on this site and it will pay off. By the way, im back up to 225 and my waist is still at 34 and my wife loves the new me.
Thanks redemption! You prove that we are not older guys anymore and we can get serious and make changes at a later age. You sound like you have your shit together and are fit and big.That encourages me allot. Good luck on your gains and I'll keep everyone posted on my progress.
Eat 3500-5500 calories. Shoot for 250 grams of protein per day. Are you still 18% BF? Get some BF calipers, they are inexpensive and well worth it. The scale doesn't tell it all. Keep your macros (protein, CHO, good fats) in check. You did good losing 33 lbs, unbelievable. What are you running for your first cycle?
Congrats on getting leaned out brotha! For Ur wieght u need at least 1.5 grams of protein to every 1lb of body weight. Bare minimum. I would also recommend 75% of that comes from foods not powders. Calories should be dependent on goals at least 3,000. Good luck keep us posted with pics.
Yeah, I knew that question would come up. I was 198 of fat lazy guy and was sick of it. I started a leaning out work out and loved it. Then at a trim 165 I thought to myself, man I really should of converted that fat over. But now its too late. I have no regrets of losing the weight. But now with this change of lifestyle I decided I want something different. My wife of course loved the results and I want MORE. Not 198 fat old guy, but 200 of big old guy. Yeah I also know I waited till later in life, but what the hell. I'm now old enough to make the right decisions about it and the monies to support it.
I guess I should also add I have had to start supplementing some calorie and protein intake do to the nature and hours of my job. I supplement 120 g protein and 1800 calories a day on top of 4 to 5 meals. Just started this so no results as of yet. But I guess the question is, what is optimal calorie and protein intake?
Just as a afterthought:
omega 3's @ 4200 mg daily
magnesium @ 45mg daily
vitamin C @ 2000 mg daily
Creatine @ 3800 mg daily
Whats up bro, good for you getting ripped. More protein the better. Lean meats fruits and veggies. Just eat like a cave man. Google the Rocks daily diet when he got ripped for his last movie and that will give you an example. But basically eat smart and no alcohol
I think I can help but id like to know since you were already 198 and are now 165 why do you want to bulk you were already 198
I'm pretty sure he is at a lot lower bf% now bro. Way better base to build quality muscle not just be that big bulky "fat guy"!