First cycle at 39
Hello This is my first cycle at 39 years old, I am 5,11 and 195 pounds, in good shape except for a little beer belly . I have been in and out of the gym since I was 15. I just want to see if I am doing everything right as I have now been on for a week and yes I did a lot of research. LOL
cycle
D ball- 40mg one in the AM and one 2 hours post to workout.
Sust 250-750 mg a week in to spread in to 2 injections Sundays and tuesdays
eating 200 plus grams of protein on a clean diet eating 7 times a day.
hitting the gym every day except for the sunday.
Thinking about adding some test E and deca?
Also not sure if the D ball is legit as it is from Chemical Advantage and seen some pretty bad reviews. Thinking of changing to a D ball/ anadrol 50, blend I know is legit.
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I will have to get some sirmidex or aromasin, I am still going to pin on Wednesday and just hope for the best. This will actually be my third injection, and so far have not had one side effect knock on wood.
unless you guys think I should wait.
Just wait.....two Weeks you can have everything and do it right. Simple insurance.. As you scroll this site often you see lots of questions from those who rushed.
Thanks Irish, just had to check I have a bunch of his D ball, and test E, and with all the bad reviews I was a little worried.
Trenbaloon, I have no clue why Sust is such a big deal, all my boys love it, that is why I was told to use it for my first cycle, but I guise they are wrong.
Well when I did it I always loved it too:-) What I noticed happening was I began getting super aggressive and irritable. I broke out with some major acne which I still have some scars to prove it. All signs were pointing to fluctuating levels. That's why it's not ideal cuz not everybody can handle the up n down. There is a way to run sust and get the most out of it. Check out that thread brother it's all there
Here's the article in that sust thread:
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone/112100-sustanon-obsessio...
trenbaloonSorry to hijack your thread but i have a question. Why the hell do people use sust? With more esters your creating more problems with keeping STABILITY, honestly I think sustanon is a stupid investment compared to single ester anabolics. Please enlighten me if there is something so special about sust i am missing.
Agree with GS.......sus is much better after a few cycles. Just ran over this this morning. On the outside it origionally looked as the perfect once a week shot. Real world use then proved every five days. More research real world went biweekly. Then its being used eod.. So for real world use it is a great compound however...where it each persons sweet spot? First timers and even few cycles deep you're still taking one compound with many Esters. It simply takes time to figure out that on case by case as each person figures out personal reactions. So for advice on newer users its much easier for someone to try test e/cyp. We know the average outcome. If ai is on hand then the real worry is clean injections. Sus is great for more advanced users because they know more of their bodies reactions
There's a great thread on sust in the forums.there's a link to a great write up on why sust is not ideal
schedule is
Monday- chest and Triceps
Tuesday-Back and Biceps
Wednesday- Shoulders and Forearms
Thursday-Legs
Friday-abs and light cardio
Saturday_ is just hitting the bag and rolling around on the mat with friends, while wife works out so that day really doest count.
and I do have Nolvadex and HCG on hand, but was told I would not need on first cycle, but picked em up any ways.
I do not have any arimidex or aromasin, never heard of it. can I just use the Nolvadex or HCG ? I only use if I get side's?
thanks again, I am glad I posted on here, I was getting ready to do a huge 20 week stack.
Someone told you wrong on those and not needed. Please review forums for pct/antiestrogens. Prior to start have everything incase you start growing boobs.
Workout is typical off cycle workout. I'm sure others will jump on as well. On cycle for me that works well
Chest/back to failure all angles and abs/calves........quads/hams til wobbley......shoulders/bis//tris/calves/abs.....off...repeat. Extra stresses needed to push growth but keep above 8reps so you're avoiding injuries. Your listed workout is aewsome after cycle. Lift for 10-12 reps heavy for 4sets and go home. Heavy and eat well keeps most gains after cycle. After researching...please post cycle log. First cycle is also in forums. Glad you asked...now research and grow well.
So everything has been covered, except I noticed one thing, 6 days a week training? how do you break that down daily? what muscle groups do you work each day?
Very true Noid:-) Should have caught that. Overtraining is a lot of guys' biggest mistake.
Ok so just switch to the test E, drop the D ball?
So what do I use for a kicker?
How long should I wait to pin the test E? just ran 325 mg of sust on Saturday, and was going to hit it again tomorrow.
Man I thought I did my research thanks guys really appreciate the help.
500Mg test e....split mon/thurs. Since you fid Saturday.....do wed morn and Saturdays.
1-12 test e sat and Wednesday split. No kicker. Straight growth. Di you have sirmidex or aromasin? Do you have clomid and nolva?
You beat me to the AI and PCT. I like Aromasin over Adex for a noob. Adex is too harsh and too strong for someone new to the game and dosen't know their body. How he responds to the Aromasin will tell him whether to go to Adex. I'd get both and keep them on hand. Aromasin 12.5mg ed does wonders for me. If he still gets estro sides on the Aro he might want to try adex @ .25mg-.5mg eod. Adex just dries me out too much. Get some Letro just in case, a smart man always has Letro on hand for emergencies.
Clomid 100/100/50/50, Nolvadex 40/40/20/20. HCG is another thing I didn't see. If he notices so shrinkage on cycle a boost of 250iu 2x a week works.
High five bro! Sometimes when the high ranking guys help they work well on pushing the person to researching. I just had to help a lil. Still working n learning.
Working is an understatement. Ur a fucking posting beast! Keep it up brudda you are helping so many guys it's not funny.
I sure hope it helps! I've got four Weeks til i get my yard gnome butt on cycle. Lol! Old folks don't belong in mosh pits. Well....at least til next time. Cracked radius. Usually its ribs. Lol
LMAO! Oooouch!
Was fun til i went thru air lil superman. Lol
If you dont have arimidex or aromasin......STOP CYCLE. One shot won't hurt you. Get all that together first so you don't have issues. Having everything before going deep into cycle is important. One shot is no loss compared to lack of proper cycle
SO should I just go with 500 mg of test E and drop the sust?
When should I use the Sust? 2nd cycle.
sgtstedankoYes... Sust 3rd. After you've run a long ester, w/kicker/maybe prop end, & a short ester prop cycle, imo...
That's a perfect progression Sarge:-) I still do the prop kicker/taper. Love the "PRO" Tag brudda.
sgtstedankoThanks! I wondered were you went, brother... Yeah, they felt sorry for my dumb ass, I think : )
juiceinatorDamn nehgro you come back with all your points huh :/
sgtstedankoYeah, your impetuous juvenile antics must've really pissed somebody off, juice. Had to teach you a lesson :(
Honestly brothers, we were juvenile. It was disrespectful and we needed to learn a lesson. I'm very grateful to be allowed to be a member of this site. It's not a right but a privilege. Long story short, Lesson Learned
sgtstedanko: ) good for you...
Body fat is 9%, but going down fast as stopped drinking, I was thinking of switching to test E , I was told by my friend to mix both the testE and Sust, but I don't want to waist gear, as for the D Ball I ended up with a lot of it for nothing, so I have plenty.
Mixing causes new issues with what you want as results. Thats why each is made separately. Save sust and dbols for future cycles. You'll be happier in long run.
Up that protein to 300. And listen to Sgt's advice. Also, if gear is suspicious then please research the suppliers before you get very ill. I have no advice or knowledge of your brands so visit their page.
First cycle should be test only.and not at 750/wk. Should be 500-600 MAX. Drop the dbol. And see how you react to test only. u have the rest of your life to add compounds brotha. Do some more research cause what you have goin on isn't right.
sgtstedankoI think you convinced yourself of an improper 1st cycle, w/your research... Ditch Dbol, altogether... Save that shit. ALL OF THAT OTHER SHIT, FOR NEXT. You should've gone w/test e, c, or maybe p for a 1st. You could probably switch to test e the rest of the way, bro. That's what I'd do... Beer belly? What's your bf? Sigh