First Cycle Advice welcome
This is my first post as i have been lerking for about 2 years reading and gathering info prior to taking the plunge for the first time... I have experience with superdrol and wanted to step up into what is supposed to be a much better way.
I'm going to post my plan and wait on feedback before i move forward. Any suggestions are welcome just please give supporting information so i can learn as well. Also welcoming thoughts on whether you like the cycle with supporting thoughts as to why to further develop my knowledge base. You guys are a great group and I thank you for your occupation n on the forums so a newb like me can learn from the best!
Stats:
Age 34
Weight: 205
Body fat%: 17%
Pre cycle/on cycle:
2 weeks prior n throughout cycle
AI Life Support
Fish Oil
Vitamin B complex
Multi
Taurine
Protein
Bcaa
On cycle weeks 1-2
Superdrol: 20mg -Pro Tren: 100mg - 500 Test C
Weeks 3-4
Superdrol: 30mg -Pro Tren: 100mg - 500 Test C
Weeks 5-6
Pro Tren- 100mg- 500 Test C
Weeks 6-14
500 Test C
Diet on cycle will look something like what's included below:
2grams of protein per lbs
Meal 1 - Egg whites and oatmeal
Meal 2 - shake and rice cakes
Meal 3 - steak and brown rice
meal 4 - PWO shake and carb powder
Meal 5 - Chicken and green beans / salad with 1 TSP olive oil
Meal 6 - Shake and 1 TSP peanut butter
Acceptable Diet foods and meal variations:
Breakfast-, eggwhites oatmeal breakfast
Greek Yougurt granola snack, peach, wheat bagel, light cream cheese.
Snack- Apple, pear, peach, strawberry s. Nuts, salad, peanut butter, protein, deli turkey, grain bread,
Lunch chicken brown rice/spinach salad, tuna 2tbs light mayo, Turkey deli,
Post workout shake oatmeal coffee.
Snack- Apple, pear, peach, strawberry s. Nuts, salad, peanut butter, protein, deli turkey, grain bread,
Dinner London broil, salmon, chicken, spaghetti n meatballs...
PCT PLAN:
AI Life support 1 week
PES Erase+Pro 4 weeks
Nolva: 40, 40, 20, 20, 20
AI DAA: 4 weeks
Creatine Monohydrate
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Obviously a troll -- for anyone coming to this thread to gain advice on their first cycle, this is one of the most inappropriate layouts for a first cycle possible. Go read up on test only cycle for 10 weeks and make sure you have your pct/ai on hand.
RustyhookerBad plan you got. Height? Revise plan....
OP IS TROLL
Don't ruin the fun... he's almost gone.
Im bout to run my first as well. Im happy at 16 percent body fat because I play semipro football. Im going to run just test
Nice guns.. no homo!
What in the hell is pro tren?
its the PH version of tren
Get rid of the turkey in your diet lowers test. Are you happy at 17% body fat or where you hoping the cycle to help shed some of the body fat? If so I would say try and get to 12-14% body fat before doing your cycle and test only when you decide would be best get rid of the rest. The lower your body fat is before your cycle the better you have to help yourself not build up as much estrogen. Plus on test you would see better results for the lean look at the lower body fat. I say give a little more time before you go back on a cycle and have you done any blood work to see where your body is at? Post some pics man
Agree with Test only first cycle BUT turkey lowers testosterone! Lmao, that's some hardcore BS broscience if I've ever seen it. Please let's see these studies.
I love turkey. This is bad news for me lol. I am going to have to cut it out. Thanks for the info
Turkey lowers test??
I have read a couple different studies on it honestly I know the only true way is run tests myself because test can be bias like how back in the day creatine was prove to give you huge muscle growth and not you can by it for pennies a day. But it's something I just try and only eat on occasions even a couple reads on here about it. Also in his case deli meat has a good amount of sodium (potential bloat from extra sodium) so if he was to take gear in my opinion lunch meat is a stay away from
Agree on processed meats.
Is whole turkey really processed meats?
The comment is about deli meat which 05cummins has confussed as "real" meat.
Any meat in the deli counter that looks like a loaf is not "real" as far as I'm concerned. A turkey breast will look like a turkey breast you carve for yourself at thanksgiving.
And no, Turkey does not lower testosterone levels. Turkey contains l-tryptophan, which helps reduce stress and helps with sleep.. .Turkey also contains zinc. Zinc aids in naturally boosting testosterone.
If it hasn't been altered to preserve shelf life, no.
Most turkey is frozen, but who knows about antibiotics ect. Ham is preserved through osmosis by adding in mass amounts of sodium and water. They even use different wording to describe how much added water your paying for up to 40%. Only way to really know is get friendly with local butcher and farmers.
i appreciate the feeback man, good info there... I havent done bloods, got my body fat % in a physical... Ill post pics as soon as possible...
Where have you been lurking?
What do you know about what a good first cycle should be and why did you choose to do this instead?
Around a few boards... Honestly I couldnt find anything with PRO-TREN at all but I got it in a bundle with the SD as a stack and I figured it would be fine to run with the SD/TEST C stack... I have also considered running it when cutting....
Can I get feedback as to why it wouldnt be good to stack with sd and Test C???
Your question is not relevant.
Mine is.
Google and use the search function on this site for, "testosterone cycle for beginners"
What is the foremost recommendation for your first cycle and why? In 2 years you've must have picked up something.
ok Greg thanx for nothing my man... lol
Nothing?
I can give you a fish, or teach you to fish, there's value in the latter.
You're welcome.
Yeah, thanks for nothing greg, lol.
Not sure if many want to learn to fish these days, especially when they grow up learning that they can just go buy it with their little plastic welfare card.
He just gave you the best advice and you chose to disregard it because it required YOU to do the research that you say you did.
"Thanks Greg, I do need to do more research!" Should have been the answer.
ummmmm... no he told me to look up beginner cycles... which I already said I have done... I also said that I couldnt find anything with PROTREN which is what he was criticising... so he did not give me ANY advice... He said look it up.... Pretty sure we all know how to use google.... gohd
IF you can find any first cycle advice and bring it back here you'll see that the question about PROTREN is a moot point.
I want you to share with me what a first cycle should look like AND, more importantly WHY. I don't care if you google it or draw upon your 2 years of research.
If you can do that, you'd have answered your own question.
Don't run this cycle bro.
No tren needed for a first cycle and you definitely haven't done your research for running a 19nor
Superdrol isn't needed either
Just plain old test is perfect
And I'd dial in the diet and get the bf% little lower before pinning
Good luck, search here diet tips and first cycle layout...
Ive always read that sd and test was a good first cycle as is dbol and test c, they are about the same but i prefer sd to dbol???
Do you have any experience with the PRO TREN??
Well you didn't read that shit here, did you!
I just dont understand sometimes. Everyone in this post gave you advice and yet you keep dancing around it looking for that 1 person to cosign. Why? Just fkn do it. You are wasting our time.
Well said!
Yup pretty much, alls we can do is give the right advice, can't make em take it.
Anything with the word "Tren" in it seems to be the end all for noobs.
It looks like another idiot that will have to learn the hard way. Smh.
Thats all the rage now. I have a friend who weighs 100 pounds soaking wet beg me to get him some, he is being told in the gym its the only way he can get big. They brainwashed him so bad no matter what I said it went in one ear out the other. Fast forward 6 months later, he moved back north and had a terrible tren only cycle. He still fkn weighs shit and has an appiintment with his doctor to discuss prolactin based gyno he got. Taking fkn tren e 200 eod for 14 weeks. He never told me because he knew I was right. What can you do? Live and let die.