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44 years old. 6',1" height. 185 lbs. Body fat % unknown but can see abs in mirror. Any advice for a potential first cycle?

10 weeks:

Pharmasust 300
1-test cyp 100
Proviron
Turinabol

Weeks 1-10: pharmaSust 300, 1-test cyp 100, and proviron
Weeks 1-4: Turinabol 40 mgs split 20mg AM/PM

Aromasin and Arimidex on standby just in case.

Week 11: HCG 5000iu
Week 12-15: start PCT Nolvadex (50 mg) and Clomid (20 mg); reducing dosage by half for each after two weeks.

The idea is to use the 1-test cyp as a replacement for primobolan to help keep estrogen down; but is this too much running with the proviron (25 mg)? Will this crash the estrogen?

Should the t-bol be excluded? I wanted it as a quick start to the cycle but it's adding to the potential damage to the liver. Maybe a lower dose/just once per day as a pre workout?

Any advice on dosages, interactions, or experience with these compounds is greatly appreciated.

I have everything ready to go; including cycle support vitamins to help vital organs.

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Oh, ye benighted bodybuilder, thou Pinocchio of the peptide parade, strings pulled by the siren steroids into a marionette of muscle and madness—dost thou not see the Geppetto of gains is the devil himself, carving thee from wood only to burn thee in the furnace of folly? At 44, thy frame is no blank canvas but a palimpsest scarred by time's quill, natural hormones fading like echoes in an empty cathedral, and yet thou plannest to graffiti it with this blasphemous stack: Pharmasust, that ester-ed elixir of excess, a cocktail of testosterones crashing like waves on the shore of thy sanity!

Nay, I thunder from the mount: Purge the additives, ye alchemical adulterer! Run it solitary, that Pharmasust alone, lest the symphony of sides blend into a cacophony where thou canst not name the offending instrument. DHB—ah, that dihydroboldenone demon, the 1-test cyp fiend, slithering in with promises of granite gains but delivering desiccated deltas, joints grinding like millstones of misery, and pain post-injection that rivals the thorns in Christ's crown! It hardeneth the physique, aye, but softeneth the soul, inflating blood pressure to papal decree levels, courting clots and coronaries as lovers in the night.

And Tbol, thou treacherous tablet, the turinabol troll under the bridge of thy biliary tract! Oral poison pillaged from Cold War cauldrons, it kickstarts thy cycle like Lucifer's lightning, but levies a toll on the liver—elevated enzymes erupting like volcanoes of vengeance, jaundice yellowing thy eyes as judgment day dawns early. Overkill? This trifecta is not a cycle but a cyclone, whirlwinding thee into wizardry where sides stack like sins in a confessional: gynecomastia blooming like forbidden fruit, hematocrit thickening to sludge, and thy endocrine axis shattered like the tablets of Moses dashed upon the golden calf of your ego!

Baseline bloods, thou blindfolded bull in the china shop of chemistry—draw thy vitae ere the vial's venom flows! Lipids, liver markers, PSA for that prostate prowling toward enlargement, free and total T to benchmark thy temple's true state. And at thine age, why this blast-and-burn barbarism when TRT beckons like a gentle shepherd? Testosterone Replacement, the modest manna for the middle-aged, sustaining strength without the cruise into chemical captivity, where PCT proves a phantom exorcism and balls atrophy to acorns in autumn's grip.

Heed this harangue, or reap the whirlwind: acne armies marching across thy hide, hair fleeing like rats from a sinking ship, mood swings savage as Saul before David’s harp. Consult the physicians, not the forum phantoms peddling powders from shadowy silos; dial down the dosage of delusion, lest thy gains evaporate like mirages in the desert of disappointment. Repent the stack, embrace simplicity, or wander woebegone into the wasteland of what-ifs, where "what was I thinking?" echoes eternally. God’s wounds, man—slow thy roll, or the reaper reapeth early!

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Sithx66's picture

Poetic as fuck!

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Drexyl's picture

He’s fucking fluent. Time traveler?

FartDracula's picture

Lol thanks grok. Bot response for a bot post.

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dccccc's picture

DHB is not an ai like primo/eq!! and its also hard on liver so mixing it with an oral frontload is a bit silly. id reccommend to start with just the test and run the tbol for last 4 weeks if u rlly need the extra kick.

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@Greg all the zero accounts look like bots. Same opening statements etc. Yawn

Asa's picture

Lmao the fucks going on?

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RobertB80's picture

The plague buddy

Asa's picture

It smells funny. Gotta tren stench to it

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Asa's picture

Are you a bot?

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irongame427's picture

I never understand how someone can presumably do some research but completely miss the mark for a first cycle. The typical first cycle is plastered all across the internet. We’ve got like a dozen stickies here about it. It wound be hard to miss it, but somehow you did. And it doesn’t involve a relatively harsh and advanced drug like DHB, or Tbol, or proviron, or primo. If you start getting side effects is it from the test, the DHB, the tbol, or the proviron? How do you know which one to stop?

First cycle is test only, somewhere around 500mg ew. With a good diet, training and recovery you’ll blow the fuck up. And learn how your body reacts to 1 drug before adding more down the road. You have sustanon which means you have to inject daily, or EOD at most which sucks for anyone but especially if you’ve never injected before. Test E or C would be a much better choice for a first cycle.

dccccc's picture

not to mention hes doing an oral frontload alongside an extremely liver toxic compound like dhb with no knowledge of his liver resilience lol who is out there advising this stuff

RobertB80's picture

16 weeks test only then pct or cruise. Test C or E is fine. Usually people run 500mgs a week split twice weekly, although many other members having great results from as little as 300mgs.

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Are you a bot?

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Have you ever sucked dick?

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smurfdude1234567's picture

Said time and time again but if you’ve never touched anything…. Just. Do. Test.

Test. Only. Gauge how your body reacts and get baseline, during, pct, and recovered labs to know how you react to drugs. Add in one at a time and repeat to see how you personally react to compounds.

You will get insane newbie gains from a mid dose of test alone.

Rarely for very experienced guys adding in an oral is feasible, but I would not add in DHB or TBOL on a first cycle with zero prior experience personally.

I like the ancillaries on hand, and you will only know from bloods. As you use and learn you will become much more familiar with your body/be able to pick up on the signs.

Yeah though man I think you’d be just as satisfied if not more with test alone, and you’d be running a lot less risk only having to experience one new steroid that is naturally produced in our bodies and a couple AI/PCT compounds vs multiple smacking ya at once.

At your age also look into TRT. PCT is TOUGH on the body/emotions, and you can stay fertile while on TRT & cycling with hcg if that’s the concern. You’d probably benefit from script TRT anyways, and it makes cycles so much easier. The transition from blast to TRT is so much easier than blast to cold turkey/PCT

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