posted Mon, 04/29/2019 - 15:44
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I'm 31 5"11 and feeling a little fluffy at 205 at about 15% after a successful bulk.
Thanks for all the info, you have steered me away from tren and deca (sounds like I dodged a bullet) so I'll run 12 weeks bulk of 400 test e week.
I have one more question. I have read that with a low dose you shouldn't need an ai, I know everyone aromatizes differently but could I get away with just using Nova if problems arise? And I red that some people do just Nova for pct, no I need clomid? I suppose I should just man up and get some aromasin and clomid to have on hand, but would like some feed back.
Again I really appreciate the help, I almost dug myself a hole with the deca and tren idea.
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Alphamale500Just keep in mind that with a 400mg/wk dose of test e, it's very likely gonna raise your estradiol levels to a level where you need an A.I. In short, an A.I. will help keep your overall estradiol levels down. Nolvadex is only going to work at the receptor sites in your chest to help prevent gyno, but do nothing for your overall estradiol levels. High estradiol levels can cause many more serious problems in your body, than just a cosmetic issue on the outside like gynecomastia.
In many people, low doses of test like trt doses(100-200mg/wk) will not cause much of an increase in your estradiol levels, and they might not need an A.I. But you need to always have regular bloodwork done so you know exactly where all your numbers are at for sure!
Regarding PCT, there are many different protocols out there that people use. Most include both Clomid and Nolvadex, etc.. I have seen some with Nolvadex only, but you'll have to do some research yourself and see which are best for the compounds you're running.
So I tried here to help you out the most I can without just spoon feeding you too much. What I can certainly tell with the questions you're asking is that you need to do lots more research before attempting even a test only cycle. Make sure you learn everything about all the compounds and ancilliaries you're going to use, proper doses, possible sides, correct injection methods etc.. And make sure to have everything you're going to use for your cycle, PCT, ancilliaries etc before starting your cycle.You don't wanna end up fuckn up your body by misusing these powerful substances. Stay safe bro!
SmightAlso I plan on getting blood work before during and after.
So you have YET to even run steroids and know whether you like the feeling or not, and the injecting at least twice a week task - But you are already planning on running 300mg/wk of trenbolone for the third cycle??! You sound like another one of these time wasters thats just got a gym membership to put up a picture on the internet...Bet you already have actually.
Would be great to see the picture of your physique before suggesting anything.
I would not touch Deca unless you already a successful experience with it, that’s really a drug for experienced athletes that know how to avoid/
deal with side effects from it.
PcushionLeave the tren door closed my friend. Somethings are better left untouched.
SmightI appreciate the info. I have been researching for quite some time, it's just a lot to get your head around. My diet, is pretty well sorted, just trying to look like I lift, I have been serious in the gym for a little over 5 years now, just naturally small. I'll just start with test e for now, with aromisin on hand, and Nova for pct? Also I plan on being off cycle for the same length that I'm on.
Nolva and Clomid for pct bro
My first 3 cycles were test only added proviron at 4th cycle
If I were you i'd be planning one good cycle first! On the third cycle I'd lower the test and maybe raise the tree a lil if you can tolerate the sides.
Brother don't get ahead of yourself, looks like you need more planning and research. There's no need to rush things, this is your body/your life youre talking about. These are powerful drugs youre putting in your body so be smart about it. Once you you are truly ready and have diet dialed in get blood work done before doing anything so you know where you stand. Test only cycles you should be doing for several cycles. Youll need to pull bloods during to know how your body is reacting to test and to dial in e2 and not go by feel. Without blood work its a guessing game and you dont want to guess when youre talking about your health. Theres no need to add other things test only cycles you can accomplish so much with proper diet and dedication in the gym. Best of luck with your research and planning and also be/stay safe
PcushionExactly!!!!
You need to do some research dude I wonder if there is a site with that type of info on though
RustyhookerCycles are not well planned at all. Simple first cycle is plenty for quite a few runs. Deca towards 10th cycle. Tren...fuggeddaboutit
I agree my first 4 cycles were straight 500 test-e, had adex but realized at that dose I don’t need a A.I., everyone’s different tho. He does need his pct before he starts tho so I’ll give him that. And your right about tren hell I’ll admit I was scared to run tren the first time and that was 10 years into running gear haha. And tren-e is suicide for the first run, IMO everyone should pin ace and see if they can deal first.
DivineHagreed tren e is the devil!