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hi all planning on doing my first cycle been going to the gym 2-3 years on and off
5 days a week last 6 months
the cycle im thinking of is
1-12 test e 500ml a week spilt Monday Thursday
14-18 clomid 100/100/50/50 novadex 40/40/20/20
also some Arimidex just in case.
just like to no what you guys think thanks

lippo79's picture

first of all thanks everyone for your thoughts im not really looking to put a lot of weight on just want to be about 170 max but muscular and very lean what do u think is the best way to go about this.

rolltide3's picture

Food that an easy answer your goals u could achieve all natty very easily.second training

crazymofo's picture

It is all about diet and training with trial and error. To add mass it is as simple as increasing calories to a calorie surplus combined with weight training and regular sleep.

How many calories do you ask? How much and what kind of training? I don't know you have to find out. Sleep is ~8 hours a night.

Then when it comes to getting lean it could be as simple as 30 min fasted cardio every mourning before a meal. Again you have to figure out works best for you because what you don't want is the dreaded muscle wasting that can come with losing fat.

You can click on my avi and look under my favs I have a few good links to diet from this site.

What I would do personally is really work on getting my diet in order. When you are looking to add mass eating should be the hardest thing to do and if you don't know what that means you are not eating enough. Increase your calories, add 20-25lbs natty and then come back and look into running a cycle. If you don't have a solid base with a good diet more then likely you will not hold any weight you gain on cycle. You will not only be disappointed but will have wasted a lot of money you could have spent on food to gain mass that would actually stick. Just my 0.02.

rolltide3's picture

I'd say hold off on this cycle till u learn to eat and gain weight natty. Your just setting yourself up for failure if u start now. All u gain u will lose. Diet is critical to having a successful cycle. Your first cycle if done right will have amazing results but without the proper nutrition this will be an epic fail. Take the next six months at least start bulking learning how to eat. Don't even think bout starting this till u can gain at least 15 ta 20 pounds

jansen's picture

I'll let you in on a little secret to stacking on some weight. http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/for-guys-that-seriously...

tzelukie's picture

Dude, thanks for putting up a responsable first cycle. 5.8 150 lbs- you need to learn how to eat, all the gear in the world won't do shit if you cant eat right, sure you will get some gains while on, but when you come off you will just shrivel up like an empty balloon. You should really be able to add 10-15 lbs really quick with a good diet and routine. Check out the diet section for gaining. There is a wealth of knowledge and people who love to help with this stuff. At 150 lbs you would be a fun project! Be smart- hold off on the juice, learn how to eat properly. When you do get to the promised land you will have a much more successful run I promise.

rolltide3's picture

Spot on I posted before reading this plus one

crazymofo's picture

Like everyone else has said you need to eat more and grow natty before jumping into AAS.

How about you list you daily diet and also your training regiment and we can go from there.

Dickkhead's picture

Bro, that cycle is fine as a first cycle, the adex should be run from the beginning at least at 0.25 mg eod - u could start e3d and see how your E2 level is in a blood test after say week four -

However, I don't think a 150 lb. man should be running steroids to add mass. I'm one inch taller that you and the last time I was 150 lbs. was in grammar school.

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You must put some natty weight on before you start in with steroids. At least another 20 lbs. Sorry bro, no chemicals for you yet.

CBBurrr's picture

That looks like the cycle a first timer should run. Your Stats suggest you could still gain another 15 pounds just by eating right while lifting right. Come back when you are 165 pounds and 15%.
Track
Stats
Age: 34
Height: 5.8
Weight: 150lbs
BF: 15%

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