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Fighters Cycle

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Hi, I need some advice on a fighters cycle.

Stats
Age: 26
Height: 1.87m
Weight: 99kilo
BF: 8%

Previous Experience on cycles
Test-E 250mg/week + 60mg Anavar/day

For my next cycle I was thinking of again using test as my base on a low dose as I need to minimize weightgain combined with Masteron. Speed and Endurance may not be affected and in case of testing I prefer not to use EQ with it's long detection time.
I prefer no orals anymore, unless if it's something like a stimulant or something for aggression.

Anyone who can help?

Champion Of The Mind's picture

One word, Winstrol. Winstrol is an athletes' drug. Winny is known as a cutting agent. Using Winny you preserve muscle tissues while cutting water and body fat. It's also known for it's ability to increase muscular endurance. Ben Johnson tested posted for it in the 1987 Olympics, after running the faster 100 m ever, at 9.79 seconds. Still the record today. Winnys a 17aa compound,meaning its really toxic to your liver, either ingested oral or injected. so moderate use is advice, in the range of 6 weeks around 30-40 mg daily. I've used it in the manner I've described and it gave me a really ripped looked. It helped me burn a more defined side serratus, and the situations in my delts and triceps become more defined. I also notice a increase in pain tolerance in the amount of reps I did, with the same weights. I think its one of my favorite cutting agent. Good luck bro

tatsumaki's picture

Thanks for the comment, gladly appreciated. I thought about winny, but some people get joint problems on it. Did you experience any joint issues while on winstrol?

Champion Of The Mind's picture

I've always had a little trouble with my left arm.. think its a rear delt tear, or possible a tendon.. its on the outside of my left outside delt, runs down and through my bicep.. it hurts occasional. If I don't get a good warm up, I feel it pretty fast, wide grip heavy incline causes a little discomfort, but if I hurt, I drop weight and get a little more blood in it, before pushing it to hard, seems to be fine after that.. started taking a gram of glucosamine and msm and its feels great, thinking about running HGH to help heal it up. when i was running winny, it seem to be a little stiff in the mornings, so I started drink more water on top of the 1.5 gallons I'm drinking now and it helped a lot, I don't let it get to me, I push through the pain and if it's to much pain where I can't sleep, I pop a xanax or loritab and it helps me sleep... I'm not glorifying using Rx's for anything other than their intended purpose and be careful while using them on cycle because it causes extra strain on your liver/kidneys.

WhyNot's picture

Usain Bolt Holds the current 100 meter world record at 9.58.

Champion Of The Mind's picture

That's true. appreciate the update.

jjs1379's picture

I'd like to know what Vitor Belfort's cycle is. He claims just TRT but I seriously doubt it the way hes been knocking fools out in the UFC.

My cycle is very similar to yours.

I'm taking 300mg(Test-E)/week + 20mg of D-bol ed

SOme of my buddies claim that Anavar really gives them an added aggression or ferocity. Iv yet to try it myself though.

mwagner630's picture

Belfort is tested weekly. He's only running test. On top of weekly testing he also gets multiple random tests. He probably the most tested athlete in mma. He gets blood n urine done. N u should see the list of what he's tested for, it's insane.

tatsumaki's picture

I tried Anavar twice, don't know if it was legit though but it didn't work for me at all.
First time i tried from Generic Supplements and second time from British Dragon. Also the higher up the dose I went, the more backpain I got.
I think like how the other guy "WhyNot" said, testosterone suspension is the safe way for aggression and instant strength like if its a pre workout or something. 1 or 2 hours before fight/training and your testlevels should be instantly sky rocketing as theres no ester attached just pure testosterone and if its instantly raises your test levels, it could surely be possible that's the secret behind his knock out power. I might give it a try sometime, also leaves the blood fast

jjs1379's picture

I might mention also that there is a trend going around where fighters are taking BetaBlockers before a fight. It doesn't necessarily make you more aggressive but it takes away the fear or adrenaline dump some what. I know that for myself especially If im not mentally on point that the anxiety or nervousness of a fight can be crippling. I tried it once just for the hell of it and it was pretty noticeable difference in adrenaline level/anxiety.

ChemDawg's picture

I know some sources carry Boldenone Ace and Base, but I read it hurts like a bitch for some to use, which should be pinned at least ED. Make sure you get blood tests done occasionally, so you can find out if you are doing more damage to your body then it is worth.

Roid Noid's picture

If there is a possibility of being tested then it is best to not use steroids, dont count half life or any other method as a way of determining the length for how long it will be in your system. they have better testing then you might expect, its also cheap so dont believe its so expensive crap people teach(I know I had to pay for my tests). and just a heads up I popped positive for mast at around 50 days after coming off a test-p cycle. So dont believe that just cause the bottle says something thats what it is. they can locate fillers that are used in steroids long after the drug has left your body and thats good enough for a positive test.

tatsumaki's picture

thanks for the awesome advice. Good to hear tips from guys with the proper knowledge and not as on most forums bodybuilders who only want to get huge Biggrin

How long should I do the cycle? I was thinking of 10 weeks

WhyNot's picture

You could do 10 because of the short acting compounds. My personal advice would be to run this cycle for the length of your training camp. This way you get the most out of your training. Since typical training camps last three months I would run it for 12 weeks (or whatever that time period may be). Hope this helps.

WhyNot's picture

My recommendation would be to go with 150 mg of testosterone propionate. Propionate has a 19 hour half-life so it will help you in case of drug testing. The testosterone dosage is basically a TRT dosage to keep you functioning as a male. To that I would add a DHT compound. Masteron propionate would complement the testosterone very well. Suggested dosage would be around 600 mg a week. You would need to do daily injections with this protocol. I would also incorporate HCG at 150 IU three times a week.

Don't forget to PCT after this. Clomid 100/50/50/50 and Nolvadex 40/20/20/20/20

levelup's picture

Just to clarify that's 150mg prop a week so 50mg eod?

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WhyNot's picture

150 mg a week total. 50 mg eod would work, but daily injections would be the best option due to the short half-life.

tatsumaki's picture

If you know there won't be done any testing, is it ok then to use longer esters?
I've also read about fighters using halo. Whats your view on it? I know its very toxic but it can help with aggression.
What about other stimulants? I tried ladasten, which didn't seem to work for me at all.
Phenylpiracetem worked but seems I got tolerant to it.

WhyNot's picture

If there is no testing you can use the longer esters but it may make it more difficult for you to cut weight. Keep that in mind. Longer acting compounds are more difficult to time, not that it's impossible, you just need to know your body and those compounds well enough.

Halo is great but is very liver toxic. That's your choice. You can also use suspension. C drops Bring out aggression like none other. But out of all of them suspension is probably the easiest on your body.

Learn to take care of your body. But the choice is ultimately yours.

tatsumaki's picture

Interesting thing about the suspension. I heard pinning can be quite painful though, although it shouldn't be much of an issue. I care more about health, considering I'd rather pin this than use any toxic oral, What would be the right dose for aggression? same as with prop?
And 1 hour prefight?

WhyNot's picture

I think the key to this is for you to experiment before you actually apply this. Meaning start with 50 mg dosage an hour before training. See how it goes. it might hurt but I guarantee you it will be less than an armbar.

tatsumaki's picture

haha thats true though, although I just remember that masteron can make people also a bit more aggressive, perhaps it's only the little edge I need. Will try the mast and test first, and see how it goes. The less gear the better. Don't want to run too many stuff.
Thanks for the great advice, much appreciated

purejuiced's picture

Tne is not that bad especially stacked with other compounds as long as the muscles u r injecting into are used to test. I think testp and mast p at 75-100 mg eod would add strength and exsplosivness with the right diet little to no actual weight and maybe 30-50 mg of tne before workout. For me I retain a little water on tne abd next to nothing on test p.

WhyNot's picture

You're welcome.

Catalyst's picture

I'll back this, it's good solid advice. +2

WhyNot's picture

Thank You.