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Feedback on cycle for cutting.

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I'm new to eroids but have been training for 25+ years. Taking gear for 17+ years off and on. Feedback is welcome.
My stats:
Age: 44
Height: 6'2
Weight: 311
Body fat: 18%

Week 1-16 test E 500mg wk
Weeks 1-16 deca 300 wk(primarily for joints)
Weeks 1-10 proviron 50mg daily
Weeks 4-10 tren A 100mg EOD
Weeks10-16 winstrol 50mg daily
Weeks 10-16 anavar 50-75mg daily
Pct=hcg,clomid,nolvadex

Solidly's picture

Being super strict with my calories had helped me cut as I've gotten over 40. I've also found albuterol has produced great results in conjuction with diet.

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DIESEL DC's picture

Thyroid levels and test levels are very low.
Everything else was good. I will work on getting you a pic.

Faz's picture

16 weeks t3??
Have you done that before?
Seems like a one way ticket to a fucked thyroid

DIESEL DC's picture

No I haven't but I'm only running t3 for the last 3 weeks bro. Where did u get 16?

DIESEL DC's picture

I totally jacked up the cycle. The t3 is only the last 3 weeks guys It wa a typo.

DIESEL DC's picture

I researched the topic and all the research said that the thyroid will start producing naturally after coming off without any issues.
I can't run clen due to taking a beta blocker.
Is ther another fat burner you would recommend instead?

whoremoans's picture

Having hypothyroidism and running tren seems like a shit fest of symptoms. Are you diagnosed with hypothyroidism? Goiter? Running t4 or t3 imo is playing with fire. Absolutely unnecessary. Diet alone would yield healthier results. Veteran or not, you're playing teeter totter with your endo system

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Christophany's picture

Word!!!

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DIESEL DC's picture

Bro I'm only running the t3 for 3 weeks at the most so why all the fuss?

Makwa's picture

I don't see how in any way, shape or form that running T3 for 3 weeks is going to help you at all. All I see are negatives.

DIESEL DC's picture

What would you recommend then bro? I was just looking to accelerate fat loss a bit.

Makwa's picture

I don't recommend that anyone use it. I get out on stage at sub 5% bf and I don't need to use it. The problem with T3 is that it is non-selective in the tissue it burns. It will burn up just as much muscle as it does fat. So after you have ran it you will probably have dropped some weight but unfortunately alot of it will likely be muscle also. So now you have just burned off a bunch of muscle and this will result in a slower metabolism which will now result in you gaining fat much easier afterwards. The rebound can be terrible. I for one work way to hard for every ounce of muscle so I stay away from anything that is going to eat it up. It can take me a month or more to put on a pound of muscle but I can drop a pound fat in a couple of days just naturally. Doesn't make sense to take T3 and lose pounds of muscle that will take me a half year to gain back just to drop a few pounds of fat which can easily be done over the course of a few weeks with diet and cardio and save all my precious muscle to boot.

DIESEL DC's picture

Makes since. Although AAS does create a muscle sparing environment, you will still likely still lose some muscle. Well the idea of doing that has now been taken out. It was on a whim that a friend of mine suggested but of course I wanted to get feedback before doing so. Appreciate all the info guys.

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Cool

Faz's picture

Your stats show you obviously know what your doing, I certainly wasn't questioning that.
My limited research of t3 was it did irreversible damage to your heart. Some research can be exaggerated that's why I was asking if you had ran it that long before.
I've tried different fat burners and my favourite ones are the epherdrine amps but I've stopped using them all, they just make me feel weird.

PPGfreak's picture

Holly shit I missed that lol

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Faz's picture

I've never ran it but I assumed it was used the last 4-6 weeks of a show.
I don't get why t3 is even an option when extra cardio will more than do the job and safely lol

PPGfreak's picture
  1. Id primarily worry about your diet
  2. You don't need 600ng of test when you're cutting
  3. In my opinion you can you use half that Deca dose if it's just for joints
  4. Winny won't help you at all with your bf that high
  5. Why stack Winny and anavar at the same time?
  6. PCT? You need more than Clomid and HCG is run ON cycle not off cycle
  7. Seven weeks of orals straights? And two of them?
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DIESEL DC's picture

Thanks bro. Also I checked my bf just now and it was at 18%. I was guessing earlier like a dumbass.

PPGfreak's picture

18% isn't bad bro. I'd drop/low carbs and add in cardio to get it to 15% prior to adding in the gear. More body fat we have the more estrogen we make!

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DIESEL DC's picture

I do cardio an hour a day and train weights 5 days

Drock_357's picture

No no no
Wk1-8....400-500cals below maintenance, 45 mins steady state cardio ed
Wk8-12...recalculate weight and cals...500cals below maintenance...30min hitt workout 5dwk
Wk12-goal.....recalculate weight cals macros every 2-3 wks.....cardio 5 times wk along with weights
Keep cals below a maintenance, cheat meal every 10 days.....
Work your ass off and earn it! Winny, t3, anavar blah blah blah wont give it to you...YOU have to earn it!

giardap's picture

you clearly haven't a fecking clue as to what you are doing

go to the diet forum

DIESEL DC's picture

If you don't have anything constructive to say then don't comment at all!

giardap's picture

That was a VERY constructive comment based on the info you supplied - which has now changed
pics??

WelshNmad's picture

"go to the diet forum" seems constructive to me

Jayzgainz's picture

YES!!

Thank you for having the balls I apparently am lacking to say this!!

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TrenAllDay's picture

Gear for 17+ years and you're over 3 bills with 30% bf...all the gear isn't going to outweigh your obviously horrible diet...

DIESEL DC's picture

Be is 18% bro i didn't check it earlier before I wrote that.

Jayzgainz's picture

Seems an awful lot to me. And as someone who has hypothyroidism and understands all too well the problems associated with a screwy thyroid gland I wouldn't mess with t3. The thyroid hormones are the master hormones.

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WelshNmad's picture

Hate it. drop your bodyfat naturally with cardio and cleaner eating

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