posted Mon, 11/12/2012 - 13:00
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Current:
-23yo
-250pounds
-15% BF
-6foot3
-5 previous cycles
-various compound experience
-diet is good but always fine tuning training is much the same
Goal of cycle: Gain 10 pounds of clean and keepable mass in 15weeks cycle. could always be a tad leaner
the goods:
1-15 500mg Sustanon EW
1-15 500mg Equipose EW
1-15 350mg Masteron EW
1-3 20-40mg Superdrol ED
*Running clen 2on 2off
*T3 if required
got AI and serms galore for PCT.
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Run Test E and EQ and drop the rest bro. With the right tweak in macros u could get the ten lbs easy. Run the Test E 16 instead of 15wks and run the EQ 14 weeks. Drop the clen and stay as far away from T3 as possible. Ur too young to take that kind of chance. Run 5x a week. 45-60 miutes and ur BF will drop on it's own. Lot's of fish n chicken. Broccoli and sweet potatoes. Clean clean clean.
If ur going to run gear then be smart about it and stick with the less harsh compounds. Run HCG on cycle to keep the boys fresh and run ur AI always. It's easier to prevent then it is to go back and reverse problems.
What compounds have u run so far? U really should keep things as simple as humanly possible when running gear this young.
biggerthanyouThis^
shoxingbiceps17drop bodyfat first
my eyeometer says 15% but most other say 12%. i am very pesimistic towards myself. is 15% too high to start a cycle?
shoxingbiceps17its not TOO high, but a little high for my taste. I always say get between 10-12%bf first. especially if this is a bulking cycle, no matter how big you are, 20%bf never looks good.
1jakd_hipyThrow the superdrol in the trash. I hate sust anon but if I were gonna run it it would be 500 2x/week so that you actually have decent levels of test in your system, if you haven't already bought sust switch it to Test E 500mg/week and Mast E 400mg/week should give you some nice lean gains
whats your experience like with it? always interested
1jakd_hipyI assume your talking about the Sus? If so it lends itself to somewhat drastic fluctuations in blood serum levels which can be difficult to manage. Also, you could argue all day when to start PCT after Sust depending on the compounds used but usually the long ester in sus will be decanoate with a half life of 15 days at usually 100mg. Now the average male produces 75-100mg of Test naturally and 15 days after your last shot your probably around that so figuring out perfect timing for PCT would require bloods
thank you, i like Sust beacause i find the ride very smooth and its quicker to get things rolling. However I could just as easily take testE can't say i notice any difference. Got Test P in the goody box too so may just kick off the Test E with that.
Anoni've always been a fan of sust, but i'm leaning towards the E with a prop kicker for my next one.
biggerthanyouMy brother this is not a good cycle, too many compounds, especially for ur age. Its diet and training that make your gains retainable not running a shitload of substances. You should go with the sus and eq for 16 weeks followed by proper pct protocol. Cardio and diet. Lift heavy, work ur ass off.
my diet and training are always steady. ok what would you change on my cycle? be specific and please specify as to why
biggerthanyouOk first drop the clen because it is very harsh on your heart especially while running a cycle(yes i know "plenty of ppl do it" and none of them are the smartest) second drop the superdrol that shit is just plain bad for you(if u want to run an oral kicker use dbol @ 50mg ed for 3-4 weeks) lastly in my humble and conservative opinion, you do not need 3 injectable steroids in one cycle. KISS(keep it simple stupid) save the mast for your next cycle it works better when your bf% is lower. Run test and eq for 16 weeks at 600 mg each. You say your diet and training are on point but if they were you prob wouldnt be 15% bf, look up sgtstedankos post about the basics for beginners it has alot of diet and training tips that you probably need.
PS most ppl on this board are going to say ur too young for roids but ur 5 cycles deep and obviously not going to stop so at least do it the right way
thank you. the superdrol is just something in my goodie bag. the gents in my training circle love the stuff.
Clen is something i only use when things slow down at 8-10% bf. was think about trying clen at a higher BF to see if I can get down faster. the BF was high after a heft bulk. Not the best looking but it really added much needed thickness. no regrets
Junk it all bro. Or sell it. Clen is best used by Pros looking to drop the final bit of water for a show. Most of those guys are 30yrs and up. Trust me guys who don't get bad sides are lucky.
biggerthanyouAlright well good luck my friend im sure some more experienced users will be jumpimg in on this thread shortly