posted Sat, 12/31/2011 - 07:07
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EQ. Test 400. Test nandro
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Hey I need help on this cycle I plans to run
Test400-400mg week
Test nandro 400mg week
EQ 400week for 10 weeks and total of 13 week cycle cuz I'm currently doing 600mg of test I'm trying to put on muscle weight but not body fat I'm a mma fighter so u can see y please help and advice on a perfect PCT after cycle over would be great I had such bad luck with PCT using nolvadex only on my last two cycles with test400 and EQ I also plan on running anavar at last 4 weeks of cycle at 40mg Ed please help guys thank u. I eat 8 times a day and train 4 times week in gym with heavy weights and training following after gym thanks guys
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Anon"Equipoise only at 400mg on week one, followed by 300-350mg each additional week until the fight. One fighter likes this exclusively. This has done well for him and the increased RBC's do seem to have a positive affect on his conditioning.
Testosterone butyrate with anastrazole at 600mg on week one followed by 400mg each additional week. Another guy prefers this and seems to do well with it.
Test at 400mg with 150mg of tren on week one followed by 350mg/week of Test with 100mg/week tren for the subsequent weeks. I like masteron over trenbolone. A while back tren got a great rep for keeping you lean and adding strength, which it does. But there's something about this steroid in high doses that seems to affect endurance. I called bullshit on this too until a friend and I tried it and noticed we were gassing out. Tren can be used but I use it sparingly as it does raise blood pressure and that can affect endurance.
Test at 250mg/week and winny at 150mg/week.
Test at 300mg/week, deca at 100mg/week. I favor Eq over deca but I've seen guys ask for deca for its joint pain relief. I try not to go over 200mg/week and you need to figure this in for your total so you have to subtract from the other androgens in the stack. Again, I've seen this but don't recommend it. I'd much rather see Test with Eq."
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http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sex_news_sports_funny_grok/s...
this should get you pointed in the right direction.
for mma u need ur cardio and dont want water so 600mg eq for 10wks, better to use test prop less water i would use low dose but u can do more 300mg-500 12wks, mast prop for first 6wks 450mg or more, var or winni last 6 wks 50mg or just run mast all throughout. That would b good quality muscle and still keep ur endurance up. If ur not running hcg throughout ur cycle u can use it post. If u dont like nol u can use clomid 100mg ed or torem 60mg. And low dose exem like 6.25ed
Thank you all this was helpful u guys I should of done more homework but I guess I'm have to deal with what I got and make a better choice next time.
winny would dry up his joints while var might affect his cardio due to the pumps. think might not be so gd for MMA ? agree on prop holding less water though.
Anonkenshiro is right even though winny is suited for his purposes, the side effects are not worth the risk of running it and he might not be able to tolerate the joint pain.
it depends on the person, there r lots of fighters who got caught using winny not including the ones who havent been caught but there r top fighters who have used it before fights and won so i would think it would b worth to try it out.
yea var does give too much of a pump, winni helps with speed and can use support supps for joints but it mainly has to do with how each person reacts to each compound. But yea if he never ran those than it would b better to stick with mast throughout.
How do you use HCG post?
u never heard of hcg post? Duchain even had it in one of his articles. Its 2-3wks with 250-500iu ed. Along with nol 20mg and the hcg might give u some estro so low dose of exem would b good. The good thing about using it post cycle is that it wont expire after u mix it. It has about 3 wks after mixing and in fridge to stay good. A lot of people now do it on cyc where they preload syringe freeze it then warm it b4 inj.
I know that old school thought was to use it post, but since it creates estrogen and your trying to block estrogen in PCT that its always recommended up to the day you start PCT.
yea now most people do it on but i like it post with some exem for estro.
Better to use 5-750 mg of test with 4-600 mg of EQ for 8 weeks, or 4-600 mg of deca with 30 mg Dbol for 6 weeks, then 300 mg. of Tren E with 600 mg of Primo or 2-300 mg of Winny for another 6 weeks...it's good to change oils, that way your body doesn't get used to it....you will grow and end with good quality muscles....also take tamoxifen 20-40 mg ed....
And just to make it clear I'm trying to get the min amount of muscle gain in a period of time can't be gaining 20lbs of muscle in 2 months time can't bring suspicion for I represent a high class UFC fighter my coach so I rather play it slow in gains cuz also it be dramatic to my own body to try to develop cardio for a extra 20lbs in a shirt period time. Is the amount I posted safe to inject all in one shot 4cc oil will it make my levels unbalance?
The test in ur cycle will be the one giving u majority of the gains, not EQ. EQ will raise ur rbc and dat is gd for ur stamina etc.
As i've said, gains from eq comes late into the cycle, however the eat-like-a-horse thingy comes quick like 1.5 weeks into cycle....i've no explanation y it hits faster but dats wat i feel. i've always added eq to most of my cycles...even my current 1-test cyp cycle to boost my appetite.
In 1 site 4ml seems a bit much, i've done 3ml max and into my quads...and at that time, the last thing i want is to tie my shoelaces cos i just can't squat down without hurting my thighs...not to mention the size of the knot in my muscle. I would suggest 2 shots in a week, Monday-Thursday although they are long esters.
Hi, on your pct, take 5'000 iu of gonadotropin. First inj. after 2 weeks at end of cycle, then 1 every 5 days ( 3 times only ), continue with clomid 50mg for 3 weeks ( start at same time as Gonado ), finish with Nolvadex for 5 weeks ( start on end of cycle or take on cycle and continue 4 weeks at end...) I hope that I helped you !
Btw, why r u running test400 WITH test nandro? Kinda pointless to run deca with EQ and more test on top of test, u should drop the nandro and run test at 600/wk and eq at 600/wk, OR run the nandro with test
Frontload the EQ, its useless in a ten week cycle cause it dont kick as kenshiro said till week 7...
Do some reseach on HCG, you should consider running it with this cycle to help recovery in PCT..
200mg/w deca seems kinda low but I suppose thats my preferrence...
400 is too weak for eq i would recommend 600mg/wk, and 10 wks is too short as eq gains only come in ~ week 7...so i think u need 14-16 wks for eq.
X2....... But 400 is min dose for EQ, kenshiro is right about 600 being an optimal dose for gains
this is true but keep in mind this dude is an MMA fighter, minimum dose is most likely gonna be right where he wants to be. It is very hard to jump weight classes in a short period of time, changes everything from A to Z...
Yes thank u it just I always done test 400 and EQ and var in cycle I'm naturally walk around is 240 but training I'm at like 225 and that being condition for my fight so I fight heavy weight cuz cutting 20lbs to fight LHW is draining me and here I'm fighting guys that have 20lbs on me I just went with test nandro cuz I was told my body could be use to the test so insted I want to stay lean and decided to mabe add the deca in it but low does and numb up my mg cuz my typical does i would do would just be 400mg of test and 200eq just to stay at weight and be rippedbut now I want to add muscle just with all my cardio it so hard to add even with eating good all day at 6-8 times a day while consuming 170grams of protien in supplements and then getting more protien from food so is it better to see if I'll gain at lease 10lbs of muscle in this type cycle?
True, I didnt think about weight class like that.