+ 1 EQ and RBC
What's up, gentlemen? Wondering if anyone can add some first hand experience with running EQ and donating a pint every once and a while....and no, I don't mean tossing your Guinness back out at the urinal like a sprinkle later tonight for Patty's day!
I am on a standard 200 mg dose of cyp each week for trt (3.5 yrs) and will be adding eq for 16-20 wks along with some var or tbol near the end of cycle. I am also running some growth here as well. Have lots of rips that are getting tested and about a kit of Nords. I have 5 cycles under my belt both before and after trt, and ran all but the eq of this cycle last year (cyp, growth, and var - still up in the air about tbol instead of var). Diet is on point and been training for a decade. Arimidex is used as I need it and is on hand. Any other info needed please ask.
Is it standard to donate blood every month or two? Just dose and individual dependent?
I know it's a general question that requires bloods for accuracy, that is why I am just looking for some user experience here. I will likely be checking blood a few times during that period, but would greatly appreciate some feedback before getting started.
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i donated just before i started current cycle but i am already jumping back up with my numbers, here is another thread on this similar. it might give you some more info.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/hematocrit-and-hemoglob...
I just posted this in another topic in the General discussion a few minutes ago but I ran into your thread so here it goes:
I just gave a pint of blood today after giving last giving blood 8 weeks ago (I donate 1pint of whole blood every 8 weeks) -- and my hemoglobin levels were at HIGH at 19.0 g/dL -- they told me the cut off range for hemoglobin to donate blood was 18.9. Luckily I was still able to donate (barely).
Hemoglobin values in healthy people usually fall within the following ranges:
Men: 13.8 – 17.2 g/dL
Women: 12.1 – 15.1 g/dL
It seems when even donating blood every eight weeks my levels still come back high.
I should also add that I have been running EQ at 800mg/w for the last twenty weeks. This will be the last time I will use EQ due to the marginal gains to high blood count ratio.
So in summary, EQ has raised my RBC, hemocrit, and hemoglobin through the roof. I was actually going to run the shit another 2 weeks but after today my bloods still being so high after just donating 8 weeks ago, I threw the vial away when I got home.
Good luck though!
Thanks of sharing your experience bro. +1
AnonI second that, Details. Thanks for offering up your experience, Details. That's all I can ask. No two of us handles everything out there exactly alike. That's part of the reason why I appreciate this community and sought some advice. +1
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkMaybe you found another reason why more is not always better? I still find it hard to believe that you need so much of it to assist in lean muscle mass; hence why I am doing really well on 400 a week versus 800-1G.
just because it is very common to hear "you gotta run the shit over 600mg for at least 16 weeks to see it work" -- i just wanted to see what the deal was, so i ran it to see what it was worth.
what do you hope to accomplish running EQ at 400mg/w?
Balance.
Anonhaha... I tend to fall on this side of things. It will be my first time running this compound and I am currently pretty lean so I don't need a ton of bulk to get some of the aesthetic benefits. But to each his own. As I stated up top, its just not my goal to be a huge dude. I like being fit, bigger than the average dude, but also trying to be mindful of the ticker in the long run. Had some issues with it in the past so I am pretty careful with gaining too much size in a short period without running an echo to see how I'm adapting. Appreciate you chiming in to, brotha. +1
I personally think through my research the higher the dose; the more you will want to watch yourself. I do agree on some of the sides as even myself on 400 a week my face and skin get a tint of red and my BP is right on the line for hypertension. BUT it's like any other aas; you have to listen to your body and keep your eyes peeled for any signs.
AnonThanks man. I think after reading all of this I will definitely be monitoring bp daily. That seems like a conservative move to make for this compound
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkBe careful on donating to frequently. This will likely cause your iron levels to drop.
AnonGood call. I am going to keep well hydrated and then run some bloods after 4-6 weeks and see how my body is dealing with it before I make any moved I think. That is a good think to know though, so thanks for your input buddy
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.Permalinkwith eq blood pressure needs to be monitored closely, possible side affects can include reddening of the skin, headaches and itchy feet in the shower especially, a trick I use when donating blood- tell the dr you had unprotected sex and you wish to be tested for stds, it works and its free, they take a nice amount of blood too, a baby asprin can be taken daily to subside symptoms, cant stress enough too watch blood pressure, hawthorn berry extract is a good natural supplement that can be taken daily to help with this.
I donated just because of the RBC info ive read suggested it would be good. I cant remember but i think its every 6 weeks they allow you to donate, not sure though. your gonna have to lie a whole bunch during the interview and on the paperwork.
AnonMan, my first class and the Principal shows up!! lol
Thanks, Roid. That's kinda what I have seen over the years, and I guess if that's what needs to be done it will get done. I'd like to think someone will be growing a really strong kidney or liver after that bag gets hooked up haha.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkRustyhookerPost your proposed cycle. If pix match stats you'll enjoy eq
AnonHey Rusty,
So, as stated TRT is standard. That being said I can up the dose to 250 or 300 of cyp. Prop and TNE will be on hand as well for a little help if needed. This is my attempt at a blast.
Cyp - 200mg/wk - Indefinite (Split shots M,Th)
Eq - 400mg/wk (1-4 frontload) - 300mg/wk (5-20)
Var or Tbol - 50mg/day (16-20)
HGH - 3-4 iu/day (1-............forever?)
I am just getting my body back in tune to growth. Took about a 3 month break after the last 2 yrs on. Plan on running this entire year again, so I will be working at 3iu initially, and continue to gear that back up as sides are tolerated. Probably won't do anything crazy because I know it will be a solid bridge when I go back to cruising.
Adex is on hand, and as I say I use a bit from time to time. After a few years on TRT I am fairly in tune with my body, so when I need it I generally know. I don't have big aromatization issues, and I clearly picked compounds that won't cause much trouble either.
Any thoughts are welcome, brother. I know I'm no expert and I could use some feedback. Appreciate it!
Thanks for taking a look, brother and yes, pics and stats are me. I have some growing to do, but I am also not the guy trying to be 250 either. I like the general build I have and just want to bring it up a notch or two at a time.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkRustyhookerNo real need for 4 Weeks of frontloading. Biggest problem with eq frontliad is backpumps. If you choose to frontload then first two Weeks is good. Eq is really a game of patience. Since you're going the long distance there's different options. Since you're trt you can keep test at the 250 and let the eq do its job. I love eq. The gains are slow but solud and well kept if diet is good. With low test theres very lil aromatizing to worry about. Ive had good solid gains first time with eq at 400. My upcoming cycle will be 250test/600 eq. At 400 on my first run i gained 14 scale pounds and dropped 2-3% bf with the cardio bump. Vascularity is sweet if well hydrated. I keep eye on bp daily because i work in the sun and dehydration means higher bp. At 400-600 ive not had to donate blood but everyone reacts differently. Nothing wrong with giving a pint and save a life. If you choose to frontload at 800 first 2 Weeks then you can clip the eq at 16 Weeks. Faster ramp up with frontload. Or be patient and go the 20 Weeks at 400. Your pucs show your diet is on point so at 400 I'd guess an easy 12lbs rock added. You'll get grwat hunger boost about week 9-11. If you use the endurance factor from eq just flat eat. Cardio off any extra. Endurance will be up in gym and bedroom. Enjoy! During cycle if you have questions then please post or send fr and I'll help as well. Hope you enjoy eq like i do.
Very informative and useful info.
RustyhookerEq excites me. Manipulate the test for wetter or drier bulk and eq will keep you hungry.
AnonHey, thank you for that bro. Makes sense. It is a long haul kind of drug and I plan to use it that way. I like the slow steady approach so I will be doing a two week frontload now (hate those back pumps!) and will continue at 400 for the 20 weeks. I am looking forward to these pumps already!!!! Good looking out, man. I will definitely keep up with you and ask if I have questions! FR sent and +1 for taking a few mins to share your experience
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkRustyhookerOh....and var or tbol. Both can go 6 Weeks at tail end of cycle. I've not yet tbol but a great dude on this site liked it tail end for hardening up. Ive run var at 50mg. Half am...half pm. Var for me kills appetite so it offsets eq superhunger. It made eating clean much easier. For me the var really boosted strength. So IMO don't max press. 8+ reps. Every lift on eq/var cycle was up 30+lbs for reps. I did enjoy good var!
Hope tbol guys can jump in for their info
AnonYeah, I have had great experiences with var on a couple of occasions.....just recently started checking into Tboy cause a boy of mine ran some and loved it. Couldn't even believe the profile with a zero androgenic ratio. That sucks a bit for the lack of drive but I will have enough of that going from the test and eq by the end and it gave him a nice dry cut like var did for me. Just thinking I may do that, but will have to wait and see. I may keep to the standard "1 new compound" rule just to stay out of trouble.