posted Wed, 11/16/2011 - 13:08
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decca vs eq
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I'm looking for suggestions on the start of my second cycle. Iwill be running test p Wm 1-4 test e wk1-12 but I'm unsure which one to stack with, Decca or equipoise? My worry of Decca is "Decca dick" so any feedback will be greatly appreciated. And if I go with Decca what and when do I take for my Pct?
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AnonI guess I would want to know what you are expecting to get from your cycle.. deca is usually used as a mass builder as opposed to eq for lean muscle mass gain.. deca will infuse your joints with estrogen which will allow you to train through some things that you may not be able to otherwise. I personally like both compounds but for different reasons. Being afraid of deca dick can be counteracted by making sure that you are taking the proper proportion of test to deca, it should be a non factor if you do it correctly.
I'm running Test E and EQ as a second cycle and loving every minute of it. Getting into my 7th week, leaning out real nice and pumps are way up just in the past week. Best thing with the EQ and Test, for me at least, NO SIDES really except for some oily skin and occaisonal tender nipples. Like I said in a previous thread though in regards to the EQ....I'm just trying to figure out how to strap the damn fridge to my back when I leave for work. Hungry as hell!! I'm gonna most likely run it during spring/summmer as well.
AnonIf you go for 300mg of each there is no reason why you cant do both. I have read a few posts of people getting results similar to mine with much smaller dosages when they combine eq and deca. I used 600mg and 450mg which may have been a bit overkill. But 300mg + 300mg shouldnt be bad at all just expect high bp for the first few weeks
AnonRunning those as we speak currently arround week 12. Adjusting to this stack has been hell but it was worth it in the end. When you can squeeze those extra two reps with deca alone, with the stack you can do up to 6 on a good day. You just lift and lift. The deeper i get in the stack the more endurance my muscles have, i can get back on a heavy set in less than a minute. The stack is amazing as far as strength/endurance gains and results but it is harsh esp for the first part of the cycle. Now that everything has kicked i cant have enough of it. Have a look at the lean mean bulk post. Supersets, tri sets, 21's all are a breeze while on deca and eq, just watch your face when you turn purplish it is time to put them down
tread-mEq but depends. I'd say run the deca on occasion just for the different compounds which for me the switch ups help. I will say I have to get on the water, let it slide for a while here with deca in my mix and while I dont see it in myself I ran in to my brother last night and he said "Got damn man, are you running deca or dbol, you're swelled up like a fucking pumpkin"! Lol. So theres that!
Deca is by far my favorite roid. Gains are progressive, but very good dense muscle (givin that you have a good diet). With proper on cycle treatment and post cycle treatment deca dick will not be a prob. Plus IMO deca gives you more bang for the buck, you will get much more mass gains with deca. 3
AnonEq hands down, totally agree with everyone here, you could run an 16week eq cycle and be no more shutdown than you would with a 16week test cycle. Each deca shot shuts you down for arround 10-15% of your natty so arround week 7 of your deca cycle you will be 100% shutdown. Id say use the deca only if you have/need too bulk and use it sparingly not on every cycle like a lot of people do. Eq you can use it as you wish it is a very versatile and mild compound. Also Eq has 0 sides id say go for that
I have read alot of threads where people say 1 shot of deca shuts you down 100% but when I use it it seems more like the shut down is progressive in the fashion that you stated. Do you have any reads on that or is that from personal experience?
AnonI am sure i read it somewhere it might have been 5%-10% or there abouts. But what i have experience from both deca and npp is they indeed shut you progressively rather than one shot like most say
I am on my third test/deca cycle now (250/300 EW). I love the stuff. Sides are diff for everyone, I have never experienced deca dick, and I never took anything to prevent it such as bromocriptine or cabergoline. Gains are solid and steady to about week 8 and will really take off after that so you will want to run it 12 weeks minimum. I mainly use the deca because my joints feel great on it. If you are running a higher weekly dose you may experience deca dick but I cant speak on that because I have never ran more than 300 EW. Hope that helps. Best of luck bro.
How much test are you running alongside?
Both have worked for me but the EQ has to be run in longer cycles to have any appreciable effect. I've tried and experimented with shorter cycles and it was practically a waste. I've never suffered from Deca (or Fina) dick luckily, so that doesn't come into play when I'm deciding.
On Deca now on a bulker, will be on EQ early next year on a long leaner.
Bro, i'd say eq all the way for a few reasons even though decca dick is a pretty good one (LOL)
Being a second cycle eq is cleaner (less bloat), low E conversion, no risk of prolactin, increase of appetite (get gains properly, thru diet)...and of course no decca dick...
but i would suggest a longer cycle. both deca and eq are slow gainers (peak about wk8) so 14 test/12 eq would probably be as short as i'd run (IMO)
Thanks for the 411 bro!