posted Sun, 11/20/2016 - 06:59
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deca, test, d-bol cycle
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heres the plan 15 wk bulk + strength
test-e 600 wk
deca 400wk
nolva 20mg eod
d-bol 60mg ed starting week 2 for 4 weeks
Thinking of putting masteron e at 400wk
pct, have hcg, clomid and aromasin
This is my fourth cycle, never done deca in one and just trying to get it right. and not to mention some mixed opinions of running nolva with deca but some say its ok and others don't. Just looking for some advice and opinions before starting.
Stats
age 36
hieght 6'
weight 200
bf 8-10%
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Test to Deca Ratio is good.
Its been said a few time to get caber to control the sides of the 19nor (Deca) however a lot of people said to leave out dbol, I would keep it in personally.
You should know by now how sensitive you are to estrogen, which you have Nolva on hand and in use for. If you've ran teen then you've used a 19nor, or NPP you've used Nandrolone (same as deca with a shorter ester). This is your fourth cycle you should know yourself pretty well.
Overall I like this as a medium range bulk cycle. Very Similar to my next cycle:
600 Test Cyp
300 Test Prop- first 4 weeks
1200 Eq
450 Deca
Dbol for 4 weeks
12 weeks then I am going to coast on test before going into contest prep
started yesterday, I like the Dbols, alot! LOL
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Thank you guys for your help! guess the only way to find out how this is going to work is to run it LOL. NO masteron! D-bols Ill try at 15mg twice per day starting day 1. If things get bad Ill get blood work and adjust or just say F#$k it and enter PCT and just stay away from Deca!
I'm about to start almost the same cycle. Wanted to get everyone's opinion on doing so.
Here's my plan:
Test Cyp 500mg per week 12 weeks
Deca 500mg per week 10 weeks
Dbol 40mg ED for first 4 weeks
Exemestane as needed
HCG weekly
Cabaser once per week.
Stats:
44yo
5'9"
192lbs
20% bf
Very high protein diet with only complex carbs and moderate fats.
Any ideas or opinions are appreciated.
test/deca 1.5-1 and caber every week? why? hcg should be later in your cycle and pct... Im only going to use ON it if i see major ball shrinkage. Im still trying to figure this out myself about deca cycles so I really dont claim to know everything about it. Still in my research phase. good luck bro!
Ratio youemtiond is ok . Caber long half life twice per week started from 0.25 mg every 3 days .
HCG started week 4 at 250iu every 3 days throughout the cycle and stop it 72 hours before the pct .
Bro , open new thread because you need help in your cycle and post also your cycle history .
Will do. Thanks.
First time with a 19-nor, you just better focus on running that correctly, drop the dbol and forget about the mast.
masteron is out, I might save the d-bol for another cycle but after more research if i do run it will be 30mg not 60
With only 3 cycles under your belt, and assuming you weren't using dbol your first cycle and at a relatively high dossage at that, I doubt you need 60mg/day of dbol for it to be effective. Remember you always want to use as little as possible to see results. Be in it for the long haul. If 60mg, on what is probably your 2nd or 3rd time using it, what will you be using by your 9th cycle?
Also the deca I would lower to 300/wk. Again you don't want to use any more than you have to and this is your first time ever using it. As long as you eat right, train right, eat right, rest right, and eat right you should get results from 300/wk.
F%$ck masteron you're doing too much. THIS IS YOUR FOURTH CYCLE YOU DON"T NEED TO BE ON FIVE COMPOUNDS!!!!!!!! Test/deca/dbol is a classic proven mass builder don't fix what isn't broken dude. Again if you start doing 5 compound stacks your 4th cycle what will you be doing by your 9th? What,15 compound stacks?! Pace yourself guy!
As for nolva I wont even address it since I have never used it on cycle myself. I advise you to have caber on hand though lol
point taken, drop masteron, lol thats good because i didnt get that one yet. Just thought it would be helpful as an AI. Caber is on the way:) This is why i posted this so i can get all the kinks worked out and it would be nice to keep the wife happy so I want to make sure my dick still works.
I would start dbol at week 1 as it's a kickstarter drug. Personally I'd run it a little lower as well. You definitely NEED Caber on hand when running Deca bro.
What's your goal from this? Running dbol and mastron in the same cycle isn't really ideal imo.
My goals are to pack on quality muscle, increase strength and to break through plateaus Im experiencing now. Why no masteron? as far as i can tell it can be used as an AI. I will keep aro and caber on standby if i need it. I'm dropping the nolva out of my ON cycle.
Bro the ratio is good for test and deca and this is the fourth cycle . So but why you mixed between aro in the pct and nolvadex throughout the cycle ?
Should be on the other way around
Aro throughout the cycle and nolvadex for pct
And dbol as a kick start for the cycle start it from day one til for week then the long ester will start work .
And you need caber this is the first time with deca just be aware of deca dick because you don't know how is your body will react . Keep it in hand
Start you aro depending on blood work or when you feel you puffy nipples.
Enjoy your winter bulk cycle .
Running a 19-nor is not an AI on hand type of cycle. It is part of your cycle and you adjust based on bloodwork. If you just put it in play once symptoms hit the cycle is going to be problematic.
First I meant about caber on hand with deca .
and I was clear about AI with bloodwork
And I didn't see that part about masteron otherwise all compounds he use for bulking and masteron has no place between them .
What would be the best way to safely and effectively run this cycle? Run AI all the way through? Caber based on bloodwork? I have a doctor here close by that has monitored previous cycles so bloodwork and or adjustments are ok.
There is alot of mixed opinions out there but I will switch the nolva for pct and aro for on cycle. Nolva and clomid always worked for my pct and this time I will use hcg as well. as for caber, Im working on it.