+ 1 dbol and test cycle questions ! first time! waiting for products 1
I will start my first cycle with bulking cycle! please advise me !
what I have ordered !
Danabol DS, Testocyp (10ml, 250mg/1ml) (will need more order)
Arimidex (Anastrozole), Nolvadex-D , Anfarm Clomid
My cycle will looks like
1-10wks 500mgs per week test C (250mgs twice a week) [ ex) Monday-Friday-Tuseday.......] (is it too short when compare to dabe???)
1-6 wks 30mgs ed dbol (is it too long????) [after breakfast 10mg / before workout 20mg / after workout 10mg]
1-10 wks .5mgs eod arimidex (do I need to take eod from the week1 ?????)
Some user advice me to take HCG. But unsure, do i really need to have it or not ?really afraid to inject something.... even test... only why I decided to inject test was, because it is my first cycle...[ so is there any products which can substitute HCG ? anything protects balls shrink ]
PCT
10-14wks 50mg ed clomid
10-14wks 20mg ed Nocadex
I know while I am in cycle I have to quit bad things that i am doing.
I am a smoker [5-6 a day], but do not drink alcohol often (about twice per month).
I definitely can quit alcohol... smoke...yes..if i have to ...!
how bad it is to smoke during cycle?
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I'm amazed this has been up for 6 days and there's still brand names in the post.
It took me 5 attempts to quit. This is the longest I've gone, so far 3 years and still I slip and have one or two every couple of months because I'm an alcoholic and I end up getting shitfaced and it seems like a good idea. Try your best to quit smoking, it's the hardest thing I've ever done. Try to not get hammered or just don't drink at all especially on cycle. Even the slightest hangover will fuck up your diet and training.
My take; If you have real, accurately dosed dbol, then 30mg day for 4 weeks is plenty. I agree with Kapsize with switching from adex to aromasin. If it's possible, which it is but can be a pain in the ass to do, get blood tests every two weeks. Especially one before cycle. This is very important. 2 weeks after first pin will tell you where your estrogen is and if you need to start adex. If it's higher than 50, then start at .25mg eod. 2 weeks later the test will be peaking, so will the aromatization and blood test will tell you if you need to adjust adex.
HCG. It's debated how to use it. My take; 12 weeks is short so using during isn't needed. After last pin of test e start taking hcg eod at 500 iu for 3 weeks along with the switch to aromasin. 4 days after last hcg pin start clomid/nolva/aromasin.
RustyhookerNo brands.
You need food advice
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Considering this lads other post I'm concerned about him running anything.
so far looks pretty solid, you've done your homework at least. good call on the pharma grade ancillaries. my recommendation would be to extend the cycle to 12 weeks if you can. 10 weeks is ok and you will make great gains but i always like to go 12 weeks with enanthate, i keep seeing gains past 10 weeks especially if adding in proviron. its not necessary but its just what i personally like to do.
for your first cycle with test only, dbol kicker at only 10 weeks HCG most likely wont be necessary, with the high quality pct items you have you should recover fine without it. will it hurt? no, but itll save you a little $ if you dont have to run it. if you do, 250iu 2x/week blast 500iu EOD last week leading up to pct, imo. and no. no product can replace HCG, especially that pathetic excuse of a product called "hcgenerate" for those who know what im talking about. real pharma grade HCG costs less and is the real thing.
also, i highly recommend you picking up some aromasin (exemstane) and switch over to that after your last test shot and keep running it through pct (i like 12.5mg / day.. then back it down to 6.25 last two weeks of pct). aromasin is a type l suicide inhibitor which means it essentially deactivates estrogen not just blocks it. with arimidex once you stop taking it all the buildup of estrogen will flood your body and you will have whats called estrogen rebound. this is how many people develop gyno post cycle. i usually recommend using aromasin as your AI throughout the entire cycle to make it easy but since you already have arimidex just use that while on and switch to aromasin before pct. that way estrogen will slowly rise back to baseline once you stop pct.
now the Dbol.. running it for 6 weeks should be fine at only 30mg/day. the rule of thumb is 4 weeks kicker, which is what most people will advocate but i think 6 weeks should be fine. only getting bloods done will tell you whether or not your liver is taking too much of a beating to continue it. (good dosing schedule on the Dbol. splitting it the way you are is the same way i like to do it)
with pahrma grade pct items, 50mg clomid and 20mg nolva may suffice for a mild cycle that your running. but most guys including myself will advocate the standard 100/100/50/50 clomid 40/40/20/20 nolvadex (12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25 aromasin [my personal advice]) protocol. if resources and funds permit i would advise you run your pct like this.
as far as the recreational activities go, i would sustain from drinking while using the Dbol and after if you can. the least amount of alcohol consumed while on cycle the better. smoking really isnt that big of deal. lots of guys smoke without issue. i wouldnt worry about that too much.
good luck, be safe, have fun, eat right and enjoy the cycle
Smoking isn't gonna effect your gains, marginally at best if at all. Markus ruel and dennis wolf both smoke. I know tons who smoke. I smoke and i make pretty damn good gains in my opinion. Quit tho bro, I'm gonna try very soon again.
This is my .02, which I feel is warranted to correct the horseshit Icarus was spewing. Send me a FR and a PM if you have any questions you would like answered. If I can't answer them I will direct you to someone on this board who can.
Forget about running the Dbol. First cycle advice on this forum is straight up Test for 12 weeks (so buy more) at 500mg per week.
This is done so that you can learn how your body reacts to testosterone. You don't need to use Adex EOD from week 1. ONLY use it if you start experiencing side effects and your bloodwork shows high estrogen, and start it at .25mg E3D. I wouldn't run HCG for a beginner cycle, but it is your call.
If you're going to do steroids, do them seriously. Don't drink while on cycle, and it's probably better to quit smoking. I was a smoker too and eventually ended up quitting because the combination of AAS and smoking put my blood pressure in an uncomfortable spot. I'd rather do AAS than smoke, plus... Food tastes so much better once you quit.
Your PcT should be run Clomid 100/100/50/50 and Nolva 40/40/20/20.
Just general background
I lift 4-5 years. but I am a asian (no affence (I know there are many big asian dudes)).
but I do not have big and thick bone. just typical asian with little tall 5'11".
bench pess 220lb
death-lift 360lb
I worked out for 5 years but never gain more than 190lb which is really stress me out !
I know I am not a bodybuilder or model !
however some of you guys, who don't get weights even work out and eat well, will know why I am thinking steroid.
really want to try !
Plz, don't just say "you are to skinny" or "no steroid" because of my weight T-T
please, help me to have safe and better results on my cycle!
10wks testo?
To short.
Take Testosterone for minimum 6months, if you want you can take Testo longer.
You can take Metandienon 8-10weeks, 30mg per Days is for a beginner enough(if the stuff good).
You should take trough your Cycle: Vitamins, Minerals, Protein, Creatin & L-Glutamin.
You should stop Smoking & Alcohol.
Go away troll seen u trolled him again in a source si
Go fuck yourself
Not only are u a troll but your the worse kind u try and hurt someone on there first cycle. One thing to troll but another thing to try and hurt some ones well being. U do it here then u follow him and do it in a si. Prove me wrong and become a helpful member or be banned shortly trying to hurt people luckily catalyst flagged u there in the si
Do what ever you want.
I'm now out of this nonsens shit
I don't think he's a troll, I think he's just simply clueless to put it kindly
Wenn einer keine Ahnung hat dann seit ihr das!
Eine 10 Wochen Kur, was soll sich in der kurzen Zeit an muskelmasse/kraft aufbauen?
Von solchen kuren habe ich noch nie gehört...
Either way he can seriously hurt someone telling this garbage to people and usually when someone makes an account and starts up trouble in multiple spots like him well u get what I'm saying it will come out very soon
... Okay... I know its my first time doing steroids..but still....based on my research... 6 months for test?? Never going to happen... Too long, i would rather not take any steroids..
Why are you telling him to take testosterone for six months. You have no clue what you are talking about. You shouldn't be giving out advice.
No clue?
How long would you take it?
AnonRight? And dbol for 8-10 weeks wtf....
8 weeks is a normaltime for Metandienon.
AnonAge: 27, 6 feet tall 180 lbs, BF:???
Cycle needs work, and you should quit the bad things you are doing before you even think about using steroids.
I used to have 8% of bf and now i am not sure but it should be lower than 10%
AnonIf this is your first cycle, go with 500mg/week of test only. Try to stretch it to 12 weeks if you can. I would not add in any arimidex unless estrogen sides become an issue. If you decide to add it in, start at 0.25mg every 3 days. I would advise you to get bloodwork at week 5 or 6 to make sure your numbers are good and see if you need to adjust your arimidex dose.
Pct starts 3 weeks after last injection (yes 3 weeks, calculate your clearance times kids), clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20. Hcg is not necessary for this cycle imo.
It is a horrible idea to drink or smoke on cycle, cut that shit out immediately.
I honestly believe you should gain more naturally as you're only 180lbs, and I don't know your BF%...
I edited my reply to remove my advice, once I know more about you I'll figure whether I will repost it or not.
I used to have 8% bf but now I guess i am in rang of 8-10%
What are your stats