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Cycle - (will be starting sometime this week)

Made some changes to the cycle. I took out the tren and added more mast. I regulated the Anavar dose.
Also I took the advice from some of the senior members on here (thank you gents!) and I decided I was over doing it with my amount of exercise. So i lowered my sets and am going to increase the intensity as much as can in the gym.

Current stats
25, 6'2, 210, 10 % BF

Goals - 10 pounds lean muscle, loose some bf %. Will be a walking photo shop! Smile

Weeks 1-5
test prop 525mg/wk ED injections
mast prop 525mg/wk ED injections
Var 37.5mg ED (half pill x3 ED)

Weeks 5-9
test prop 350/wk ED injections
mast prop 525mg/wk ED injections (stop week 8)
Var 56.25 ED ( half pill + quarter pill x3 ED)

B12 injections - 1CC ED throughout whole cycle

Fish oil blend, Advanced multivitamin, Vitamin C - ED x 3

Milk thistle - ED x 1

PCT and On cycle therapy
Weeks 6-10
Organ Guard product provided by UGL

I have aromasin on hand if I need it. (Will start at 7.5mg ED if needed) Never had a problem with gyno or any bad sides (though ive only ever run 2 compounds). But its better to be safe then sorry. I also have HCG cause originally i was going to run tren. Don't think ill need that either but i have it on hand aswell and will play it by ear.

3 days after last injection your basic pct
Nolva - day 1 80mg/ next 10 days 40mg/ next 10 days 20mg
clomid- day 1 200mg/ " " 100mg/ " " 50mg

Past cycles
First ever - Sust 250 EOD 425mg a wk / 10wks
second - Enthanate 2x shots a week 400mg a wk / D-bol 40mg ED first 5 weeks/ 12 wk cycle
Third - Prop 350mg wk ED pins / Anavar last 6 weeks 30 mg ED / 10 w/k total cycle
This will be my 4th cycle overall (Havent cycled for while, wanted to see where I could get naturally before I started another one)

I have been working out since i was 14. Have been an athlete my entire life, from soocer, to hockey, to football, basketball, lacross, track you name it. I have taken some form of martial arts since the age of 4 everything from karate, boxing, kickboxing, muay thai and jujitsu.
I have tried many methods of exercise from strength training, bulk training, endurance training, circuit training/cross fit, altitude training and the list goes on... from my years of experimenting i have come to the conclusion, there is no WRONG WAY of working out, its just simplying what works best for you. And for what i do, and what my goals are, this exercise program simply works best for me.

"Stop trying to be someone youre not. One of the greatest challenges in life is being yourself in a world thats trying to make you like everyone else. Someone will always be prettier, someone will always be smarter, someone will always be younger, someone will always be bigger but they will never be you"

Training - Basic but just a lot of it. 3 days on, 1 day off.

Back and bicep.
6 back exercises / 7 sets of 10 reps (2 warm up / 5 normal)
4 bicep exercises / 7 sets of 10 reps (2 warm up / 5 normal)

Chest and triceps
6 Chest exercises / 7sets of 10 reps (2 warm up / 5 normal)
4 triceps exercsies / 7sets of 10 reps (2 warm up / 5 normal)

Legs and Shoulders
6 leg exercises / 7 sets of 10 reps (2 warm up / 5 normal)
6 shoulder exercises / 7 sets of 10 reps (2 warm up / 5 normal)

ED - stretch / run 1.5 miles before workout / ab routine / followed by workout routine / followed by 1.5 mile run
(REMEMBER 3 days on, 1 day off)

Workouts always in the am.
Train 2/2.5hours muay thai ED 7pm-9/9:30pm

Nutrition (ill give you the just of it)

4am - 4x L-arginine proglutamate lysine pills (I do not wake up at 4am i just set my alarm so i can zombie these pills on an empty stomach)
5am - 1 Full serving weight gainer shake, 1/2 cup frozen fruit, half banana, 1.5 cups skim milk
6am - Beta aline, citri-mallate, agmatine sulfate in Gatorade before workout
10am - 2 scoops protein power, 40grams dextrose, 1 banana, 1/2 cup frozen fruit, 1 table spoon PB, 1.5 cup skim milk, glutamine, taurine, citri-mallate
11:30am - 1 cup oatmeal, 1 scoop protein power, 1 cup frozen blueberries, half cup egg whites
2pm - 1 sweet potatoe, 2x chicken breast, 4 cups broccoli
4:30pm - 1 chicken breast, 1/2cup ground beef, 1/2 avocado, 4 cups spinach
6:30pm - 3 eggs, 250ml egg whites, 1/2cup ground beef, 3 cups spinach
9:30pm - 1 scoop protein powder, 1 cup skim milk, 1 tbsp PB, glutamine, taurine, citri-mallate.
10:30pm - 6x L-arginine Proglutamate Lysine pills, 4x Gaba

".People are entitled to think whatever they want, just as you are entitled to think what you want. What people think of you cannot change who you are or what you are worth. Peoples thoughts, even the ones about you, are their business. Their thoughts or opinions of you cannot add or subtract anything to or from you, unless you allow them to."

"So many people arnt willing to allow their good moments to define them and instead focus only on their weaknesses, their flaws, their shortcomings and failures. No matter how many mistakes we've made, the reality is that we have more days ahead of us in which to be our truest selves"
I stopped comparing myself to others long ago, aslong as im better than the guy in the mirror was yesterday, thats all that matters to me.

Cheers eroids, happy juicin!

BlackDoug's picture

I wouldn't call this an unorthodoxed approach but it's different. Other than do not believe that liver toxisities is an embellishment because it's real. You really shouldn't run var that long. Simply not a good idea. If I were to make a suggestion I'd go with 50mg the last 6 weeks to really get that hardening effect. Other than that it looks as if it were a carefully planned cycle. I'm curious as to how this will work for you so keep us updated. I like the fact that the injectables are not crazy doses. It seems like you've got a lot going on here so good luck.

cpatc88101's picture

Better to be safe then sorry eh?

Ill take the advice from senior members. I switched the var to the last 8 weeks.... I know its not 6 but 8 is better than 11....
Im a cheeky bastard I know ....

Thanks for the input doug, appreciate it bro!

birdbear27's picture

Orals are rough bro. Even Anavar. Please understand. Too much oral aas = gains lost.

Please click and read this bro

cpatc88101's picture

Good read bro! Thanks for the info! I switched up the cycle so im running var the last 8 weeks. Depending on the potency of the var, im going to start off at 37.5 mg a day and if that's fine ill up it to 56.25mg. If the 37.5 is enough then obviously I wont go any higher.
Ill be running milk thistle throughout the cycle, and the organ guard from the ugl the last 4 weeks. Im also going to continue supplementing with creatine at a slightly higher dose while on var. Read it helps.

Thanks again for the good read bro!

birdbear27's picture

Of course! Liv 52 is an excellent liver protectant. And cheap. Look into getting some of that. Safety first.

irongame427's picture

Time to reinvent the wheel bros. Lets do this!!

birdbear27's picture

No no, change the dynamic of the wheel ;)

cpatc88101's picture

ahahahah now I just spit MY drink across the room ahahah

birdbear27's picture

You're back!
While your lifting regime is quite extreme, and probably way overkill, I say hey, fuck it. It seems you've toned it down to a SEMI realistic point since the prior fiasco of fun. If your diet permits, you might be able to deal with it. But you're gonna have to be ON POINT with your diet to make that shit work. Hopefully you're not trolling. If you are, this is a weird way to troll. LOL. Anyway. Good luck. Pm me if you need help with anything. I'm always available.

cpatc88101's picture

Never left man! My diet is spot on man no worries there! I don't know what trolling is?

cpatc88101's picture

BTW uploaded some pics.

birdbear27's picture

A good troll would say something like that ;)

cpatc88101's picture

Ok so I just read what trolling is. Not trying to make any rude comments or anything bro. I welcome your comments and criticism with open arms man. I don't know everything. Theres always more to learn and that's why I joined up. My bad for being so hard headed before man.

birdbear27's picture

Haha I'm with you brother. We're cool don't sweat it. Like I said I'm here any time

Dickkhead's picture

Bro,

It would seem u r listening at least a little which is good. More listening would be better. None of us gets paid for commenting on cycles or on problems and issues that members of this community choose to share. This is not a contest of wills, son. I am not writing this to prove you wrong, I am writing to attempt to help you with some issues in your AAS program that after 16 years of AAS use myself - I might see something that you are completely unaware of. And, you, son, should not be sitting thinking how you are gonna prove to that son-of-a-bitch GearHead that I know more than he does and I'm right and he's wrong. That attitude puts you at a complete disadvantage where u are so headstrong that you are denying yourself the benefits of the resources that eroids provides - which is in large part - dialog with other members and learning from their experience and yes, mistakes. The mistakes that I have made can help you avoid the same things yourself.

By the way, I like your pictures. Smile You can always FR and PM me and I will always try to help.

Kind regards,
GearHead

cpatc88101's picture

I appreciate it man. And I took nothing that was said personally man. Im not out here to try and prove I know more or anything like that. I respect all views kind and impolite. Im going to see how this works out. And the beauty thing is I can always adjust and make changes to exercises, that's not problem. But without the Gear ive been training pretty hard with no problems. My body is geared in a different way.

But hey man, any suggestions I will take to heart. Appreciate the kind words!

flacidego's picture

Remove the source's name from this post as it is in an open forum and against the rules, please. Thanks.

cpatc88101's picture

that's my bad!

flacidego's picture

Attaboy!

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