posted Mon, 12/31/2012 - 12:01
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5"11 190lbs 23 years old this will be my 5th cycle. past cycles included
dbol/test c
anadrol/test e
deca/ test e
winny/test p
looking at doing
sust250 weeks 1-12 3x a week(750mg a week)
test P 1-4 weeks eod
bold400 10 weeks 2x a week(400mg a week
test p weeks 13-17 eod with a taper where pct will start 4 days afterward last injection
have anastrozle as needed and pct will be 4 weeks of clomid and nolva and end of cycle
this looking ok? im not too sure about the prop at the start but i wanna see the results fast so thats why im doing it, and the taper at the end is to keep acne under control, if my levels get too wacky my back breaks out in acne.
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What's your bf% and how long between cycles? At your age and 5th cycle its looking like either your food is not being done correctly or you aren't looking at being huge as your goals. Your past cycles...if done right with foods and gear...shoulda had you freaky.
Fill us in on your goals etc.
8% and only once did i not wait full time on + pct before starting again.
ok well, the sust is injected e3d 250mg on each of those days, it doesnt have alot of prop in it, that is why i am running the prop at the beginning for a kick start, as you would run an oral
but i guess i can drop that out if everyone here thinks its not needed
i mistyped that im taking anastrozle as needed im taking it .25mg e3d, that is what has always worked well for me and having not only nolva for pct but for as needed if i start to get any gyno symptoms, like the painful lumps.
ill up the bold and run it longer, however how much longer must i wait to start pct with that being run as long as the sust if both are extended out to 16 weeks?
AnonYou'll stop the eq first. Say like you stop eq at week 16 but you run a test prop taper for the amount of 4 weeks after. 3 days after you last prop injection you would start your pct. this is giving the eq time to start breaking down in your system as the half life continue to cut in half each week. This is preventing you from have that awful crashed feeling because your levels dropped so quick. Search some people's cycle logs and read the comments. With a good few hours of research you will have rearranged this cycle and have a great one. But please talk to the vets. Fast is a great guy to listen too also.
thanks, appreciate the help.
AnonYes sir! No problem at all!:-)
juice12345678It's the age thing man....
This forum is one of the few that is trying to spread the use of AAS in a positive manner....
We don't advise to athletes younger than 25 (in most cases) / we don't support the use of Anabolics (like Tren.) that aren't necessary....
I guess we teach the basics....
That being said....
I think you'll have a hard time finding any help here without a small reaming out....but you'll get the help you need eventually....my suggestion is to PM people and pick there brains etc.
I also suggest you look at the cycle advice from uncle Zewi in the cycle section or the forum....it's probably the third once down?
Best,
Juice
the way I look at it is the information is all here, if you are under 25 and want to run a cycle then do the research, a couple searchs will just about tell you everything you need to know.
AnonThe SUS at 3 times a week? that gonna be EOD or what? I would say run it 500mg a tweek, pinning a ml or 250mg E3D. That EQ needs to be ran for a min of 14 to 16 weeks as chedder said to get anything out of it.
I say switch out the SUST for TestE, keep the Test p where its at, the lengthen the entire cycle to 16 weeks and run the EQ at 600mg a week. Im no cycle expert though, just using some common sense one this one, and your orginal cycle doesn't really have any common sense.
And anastrozle as needed? NO, use it part of your cycle the whole time.
well there is no doubt alot wrong with this cycle, sust is the worst compound to use if your looking for steady levels, the prop at the beginning and end is not needed. the bold in this cycle is useless. and your sust dose is a little to high.
AnonThere is a lot wrong with this besides your age. But you've already dipped into the world of AAS. So a few things. You're eq needs to be ran at 600mg for 14 weeks eq has a long kick in time. You don't need to go so high on the test. 750 at that age is nuts. More is not always better. The sust already has an amount of prop in it so why add more prop. Talk to Dossier31 or Uncle Zewi for advice. Be prepared to be bitched at a little. But listen to the vets. They're here to help.
AnonGreat Advice man!