posted Sat, 06/27/2015 - 22:03
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Cycle Help Please!
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Hey guys,
I'm going to start my first cycle pretty soon here, but I have some questions. The cycle I got is off this site it's the beginner cycle. It consists of Test-E, anastrozole, hcg, clomid, and nolva. I'm sure y'all know of this cycle, but I was wondering... do I absolutely need hcg? Or is nolva and clomid enough.
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First off, I commend you for choosing the "beginners cycle". Too many people post that they are going to run test, tren, deca, mast, dbol, winstrol and anavar for their first cycle. One compound is the way to go for a first run.
Your original question was "do I absolutely need hcg?"
I don't know that you should look for a straight yes or no answer on this. No one can predict how you will recover. If I tell you that you don't need it and you come back in a few months and report that you are going on trt because you didn't recover, I'm the a-hole that gave you that advice. That being said, I can tell you that I have run test only cycles both with and without hcg and I recovered fine both ways. I prefer to blast hcg between cycle and pct these days.
Lastly, I'm going to agree with the group that you need to lower bf% before you begin. Think of it like painting a car. Before you paint it you need to get it ready. Sand it down, straighten it out, fill the holes... If you take time to do all that, it will look better and last longer in the end.
Best of luck to you!
bodybuilding4lifeI'm definitely gonna hold off until I get my bf% on par and see how my blood work is. As for the HCG.. I mainly asked that question cause I'm just not sure on certain things about it.. where to pin it and the whole mixing to the right ratio process. Also seen so many cycle posts on here with out it ever even mentioned... so I figured it to be more so an extra precaution rather than a necessity. I definitely just need to research on it a little more.
we need, stats, cycle history and what your diet is, what your goal is, and what your training is like, cheers.
bodybuilding4lifeAlso, I am 6'1" weighing in at 230lbs. Not as fit as I used to be, but I'm getting back at it and I'm definitely not a novice at working out.
What's ur bf%?? Also what kind of pct did u use coming off the ph?? Test boosters are not pct
bodybuilding4life20% body fat. I took a different pct on every cycle if they're actually even pct's... BCS Labs Formadex before they came out with the new one and changed the ingredients, BPI A-HD, Purus Labs Recycle and a few more I can't remember. At the time of taking all this crap I was young and didn't know I needed actual SERMS so I'm trying to do it the right way now.
Ok so if ur doing things the right route I suggest u get a blood test and just like makwa said below drop ur bf% follow his protocol it worked great for me and I'm sure for others as well..... And yea those supplements aren't really a proper pct I feel like ph are very dangerous especially since these cats inside of these supplement shops don't even know what a proper pct is
Knock that bodyfat down before you start a cycle. Lot less potential for side effects and you can actually get more gains out of your cycle by starting with lower BF.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/scientific-proof-lower...
good time now to perfect your dieting.
bodybuilding4lifeI've never cycled with gear before, just prohormones like halodrol, superdrol, etc etc. I've probably done around 6 PH cycles, but haven't done one in over a year now. My diet is pretty clean. Mostly lean meats and veggies. My goal is to get buff but ripped at the same time. My training is good. I'm doing 2 muscle groups a day 6 days a week and changing my routine at the start of every month.
superdrol isnt a prohormone mate, it a designer steroid, probably the harshest steroid out there, 6 ph cycles is rotten bro, do yourself a huge favor and get blood tests done before you do anything else, you maybe in for a shock, did you pct after them? cycle support?
bodybuilding4lifeWell damn... yes I used pct afterwards and liver support while I was on the cycles. I really haven't experienced anything harsh from the cycles. My libido was always up and is still up and no signs of gyno and no shrinkage of my nads.
still best to get bloods bro, all types of nasty fkd up shit can stem from ph and designer steroids, they are mostly unregulated and they keep switching and changing shit to try and beat the law, a couple of those ph actually cause congenital birth defects................
bodybuilding4lifeWell I certainly appreciate the info bro. I'll get back to ya after I get my bloods done and once I know my body is 100% ready