Cycle Advice: Primo, Sust, testE and dbol cycle.....any thoughts on my cycle. Just looking for some honest opinions.
Just started my new cycle. I was just looking to get some opinions from you guys on this cycle layout.
Weeks 1-15
Sust @400mgs EW 2 pins Monday and Friday
Test E @400mgs EW 2 pins Monday and Friday
Primo @400-600mgs EW 2 pins Monday and Friday
DBOL KICK STARTER
Weeks 1-5 dbol @50mgs ED, 2 doses 25mgs in the morning and 25mgs 2hrs before gym. Currently taking milk thistle ED for liver support.
I don't seem to be too sensitive to estrogen sides but I have arimidex on hand and take it every EOD just to prevent to much estrogen build-up.
PCT: I got clomid, I plain on 4weeks 50/50/50/40
Didn't plain on HCG but after reading a lot on the forums I might add it. I'm not sure of the dosage of HCG. Def don't want peanuts for balls, lol
BTW this in my 2nd cycle
So guys let me know what you think about this cycle, recommendations, critiques etc.
Thanks AVRGJOE
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RustyhookerYou already started. So why ask now....so you can argue or flung poo at folks helping? Post BEFORE starting so you optimise your gains. Your cycle sucks imo. Total waste of primo. And dbol is overrated water booster.
Toss the crap in toilette(dbol). Run your test and provi at 25Mg per day. Save primo for proper cycle.
Pct sucks! If you dont need your balls then go at it. Pct is all over the forums 1000+ times. Yours is not good. Repost/rework.
Dude, nobody is flinging poo or arguing. I'm just trying to learn, debate and absorb....take it easy. I like the dbol, some do some don't. And It's never to late to ask for advice.
That sucks you think my cycle sucks, what would be your idea of a proper primo cycle?
And yeah your right, my PCT sucks. Researching as we speak.
Thanks for your time and advice, AVRGJOE
RustyhookerPeimo ia caddilac if roids for precomp awesome looks. It hardens, dries and finishes. It doesn't add tons of mass but what gets added is quality. Dbol and high test liad water which is completely opposite of primos job. So you're gonna be bloated and broke $$$. Normal primo cycles are liw test/high primo for 14+ Weeks. Usually up to beach or stage time. 250/600+ is normal test/primo. It's a finisher. If your winter bulking drop the primo. If your going to stage then drop the watery dbol and high test. Simple test/dbol/provi is more than enough for winter bulk of 15+ lbs if diet is correct. Save the Cadillac gear for sunmer body
Hey man, now that's what I'm talkin about. I can't stand it when ppl give me a one sentence answer and say I'm wrong. Your comment/advice sounds like an intelligent person is talking and I actually read it and learned a little too. No body is learning anything from "no your cycle sucks", so thank you for actually taking the time to explain your view.
I am obviously just learning and trying to get a feel for my body versus cycling. Wanted to try the primo because of the reported benefits when taken with test or the dbol in a bulking cycle because of the solid gains it creates and the ability to help maintain those gains post cycle. Also the AI benefits it may produce and it's strong binding to the AR for help maintaining a lean body. And it is said to be a relatively safe steroid.
So in short like I said before, just learning and feeling it out. Hope i don't sound too fuckin stupid...lol
Thanks, AVRGJOE
RustyhookerNot stupid at all. Just new and needing to learn your body as well as the proper chems to get the boost you want.
THAT my brother is why my ass never came near this thread until now............... +3
AnonThat's not how you run Sust...this cycle is too much for your 2nd time around...post stats
Just posted stats in another post...same thread.
I'd like to hear your recommendations.
No no no. You are wayyy off here buddy.
What are your stats?
Age
Height
Weight
Bf%
What compounds did you run in your previous cycle?
Also PCT should look like this:
Week 1&2
Nolva 40 mg everyday
Clomid 100 mg everyday
Week 3&4
Cut the above dosages in half
I would also suggest you get bloodwork done immediatly
Ok I'm a newbie but you say I'm way off....hmmmm interesting. Be nice if you could elaborate a little more on why and what.
Age:31
Weight:205
Height:6 1"
BF%:12%
My first cycle I ran...
dbol@30mgs ED wks1-4
TestE @500mgs EW wks1-10
You say I sould cut all the doses in half...why?
I know blood work is important but why do you say get it done immediately.
Yes you are way off. For a second cycle a good run would be test E week 1-12 @ 500/WK and run a propkick start at 100mg/eod for 4 weeks
I asked for stats before i gave you any advice because that's how it works here dude, we check you out before we start giving advice.
And the part where I said cut the above dosages in half mean for week 3&4 of PCT, you cut nolva down to 20mg everyday and clomid to 50mg everyday.
Do you know what an AI is?
Yes I know what AI is, I mentioned it in my post.
Thanks for your time and advice.
My bad didn't see that.
I detect your sarcastic undertone bro but everything I have told you is 100% on the money.
Your cycle is way off period.
It is highly recommended that you introduce 1 new compound per cycle to see how it affects your body.
If you're adding multiple new compounds this cycle and complications arise, then you have no idea what caused the problem.
I could go on forever dude you got a lot of shit fucked up here.
No need to run sust and test e. Pick one.
No need to run dbol and gain a bunch of shittty water weight when you plan to run primo. Waste of money.
Adex is usually recommended 2x per week either @ .25mg or .5 depending on test dosage.
Your pct is hugely fucked up. My above listed pct is standard, although there is another common pct that adds aromasin to your clomid and Nolva.
You def need HCG. Get some pronto and run it @ 500 iu/WK
No sir no sarcasm here...lol
And that is a very good point to bring up about the compounds.
Ok well then let me help you!
What are your specific goals for this cycle bro?
Did you already start this cycle?
If yes, How many weeks into it?
My goal is to put on a reasonable amount of quality mass and stay as lean as possible.
The dbol last time really didn't cause too much bloat. I was thinking once I'm done with the dbol the primo would just be kicking in and help contribute to quality gains while it is reported it is a great fat burner seeing that it binds so strongly to the AR and the report of it having AI benefits in it self.
That's why I chose these compounds.
Yes I have started, just my first week into it. So maybe ill drop the testE
And go with sust@400-600mgs EW, primo@400-600mgs EW...I really like the dbol though.
I will get some HCG ASAP...also is that 500iu EW
If ur set on sust I'd shoot it EOD my man! Keeps your test levels more stable and allows you to take advantage of the shorter ester tests in sust!!!
600 on the primo would be the lowest I would suggest so def go with 600 instead of 400
You can stick with the dbol if u like it just seems to go against ur goals imo
Yessir 500iu on the HCG split in 2 seperate 250iu sub-Q...one monday one thurs
What's the prob with Sust...in your opinion. And you don't think a slow steady release of the testE...let say 200mgs EW is good idea or is it a waste.