posted Wed, 12/02/2020 - 08:36
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Hi I am 180 pounds 6ft eating 5-6000 cal a day plent protein carbs and fats
Does this cycle look good
Week 1 test e 250 twice weekly dbol. 30
Week2 test e 250 twice weekly dbol 30
Week3test e 250 twice weekly dbol.50
Week4test e 250 twice weekly dbol50
Week5test e 250 twice weekly dbol 50
Week6test e 250 twice weekly dbol 50
Week7test e 250 twice weekly
Week8test e 250 twice weekly
Week9test e 250 twice weekly
Week10test e 250 twice weekly
Week11test e 250 twice weekly
Week12test e 250 twice weekly
Week 14 5000hcg 750 x 4 500 x 4 250 x4 each day working down. In iu
Week15 40 nolva daily
Week16 20.nolva daily
Week15 20 nolva daily
Also. Have arimidex on. Hand for. Gyno if needed first cycle. So. And advice be appreciated
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PcushionPlant protein has very little bioavailability. All forms will f protein are not equal. 1 gram of soy protein is not the same as 1 gram egg protein. You need to fix your diet.
To bad more people don't realize this.
MarcusAureliusI think u don't know how to count macros and calories bro...on 6000kcal you would be lot bigger then skinny 180lbs and if this is your first cycle test only ,no need for toxic orals
Please post up your current diet plan, macro breakdown and activity levels please buddy. Also training split will also help so we can see where you need help. Steroids aren't always the answer we need all this info first. If the basics aren't right or consistent you will hold a load of water, effect your health and will lose anything you gained over the cycle. Your stating 5-6000 calories. Is this a guess or do you track your meals? Are you tracking your meal timings? Carb sensitive timings etc etc. You need to provide all of this info and if you cant your starting to early. Why are you running steroids? Do you aim to compete or just be the biggest guy in the room? What are the reasons for the cycle? Why have you chosen this cycle? We need to know these things first
Drop the cycle altogether imo...being that you are 180# @6’ and eating 5-6k cals a day , ...you should have PLENTY of weight/ mass to be added natty just from your nutrition and workouts....no need to rush the aas wagon....unless there is a thyroid or metabolism issue you haven’t mentioned, that amount of cals will get you growing on its own!
BIG FACTS, if hes eating even 4k calories he should be on the heavy side at that height
Rustyhooker^^^^^truth!!!
Drop the oral, very first cycle. Test alone is enough, if sides occur it's easily identified.
Molinin302Drop the oral, its your first go with it. See how your body responds. Get bloods done prior to starting and buy yourself a blood pressure monitor. Im not a PCT guy, but looks good to me. Best wishes guy, but please lose the oral for now.
RustyhookerPct looks like crap....
Molinin302I'm not a PCT guy. Pretty sure I typed that, may have missed though. What would you change though? Its not awful, he's waiting 2 weeks after the last testosterone injection, titrating the HCG down on subsequent injections... its not my expertise, but looks rational. What would you suggest to Change?
Pcushion2 weeks post injection is not long enough before starting pct.
Molinin302Thanks P, thats what makes this site invaluable. Knowledge.
PcushionThanks brother. His pct needs more work than that still. Personally me I like aro and clomid. Key to pct is controlling all forms of estrogen on cycle. Estrogen is more suppressive than androgens. In a natural state testosterone doesn't determine our bodies estrogen level. Estrogen determines our testosterone levels. I have an awesome read on this if you want it.
Molinin302Even though I'm a TRT guy, absolutely share it. Knowledge is gold my man. Learning new things is always beneficial. We share experience here, its the same theory as clinical trials. Always share.
RustyhookerUmmm...read my post on it. Lol
Cmon man!
dont cosign a trashy layout
WTFFFF I know i have been away for a minute but did you get back here? Hahaha!! Great to have you back buddy
RustyhookerAlways ready to help! I see youre solid af! Boom
Molinin302Valid point
Haha. Not everyone can have a $1000 welch allyn vital monitor like me at their disposal. We bought 4 brand new ones for my facility with covid funding so guess where one of the older ones went? ;) got a bp cuff, thermometer and oximeter on wheels
Molinin302We just dropped our assisted living, not enough residents to rationalize keeping the salaries for kitchen staff, nurses, insurance... I'm so glad I took the transfer.
Makes sense. They say long term nursing staff and residents get the first vaccine rollout mid december. Are you going to take it? Its divided with our staff but at thia point and what we have been through why not take it? Risk vs reward.
Molinin302Its a NPO where I work, hence no profit can be shown at the end of the year, nor can we show a loss. Funded by HUD, housing authorities, ETC... since we dropped assisted living, our compliance just got easier. No no more free weekly covid swabs. Its getting weird.
Edit- no vaccine for me until I see a year of side effects. I dont trust clinical trials personally.
We are getting tested 2x a week now. I worked in a HUD nursing home. The HUD REAC inspections are 20x worse than joint commission inspections. Ive been a facility director for 8 years same company
Molinin302Scary lol, I think we're probably in the same general area lol. REAC is a nightmare, I put it in the bosses ears to hire a consultant, he's good, but not cheap. But still less expensive than the fines and fix it orders. It pays to pay those that can help. Trust me.
They made me change 100s of round doorknobs to lever handles, scald guards under every sink, grab bars beside every toilet and sink etc. Tens of thousands of dollars worth of work.
Molinin302Thankfully I sub all that out. That's a lot of compliance to keep up my bro. Not an easy job we do. Ive been seeing a lot of death lately. Need to make a change, I get too close to these old farts lol
I cant stand the CNAs that took the free course for welfare and come work and could care less about the residents and are miserable and treat them like crap. I love my job but i told my kids do not put me in a nursing home! There arent enough staff that do it because they have that caring nature. My wife was born with that heart but i rare now.
Edit: im done highjacking this poor guys cycle thread lol SORRY ANDY
Molinin302This is good for Andy. His plan was bad.
I can do that much dbol but i definetly dont recommend it for anyone else. Not at all.
Molinin302Had a bad experience from a lab, OP needs to see this. Overdosed Dbol is no joke. Will one run fry your liver? No. I mean there's the medical dice roll, but no. The sides however?. No. Just... no. Ever had a neck charleyhorse at 3AM? Lol. Guy has time. Its not now.
SupremoI would use the test longer its an long ester and to build real muscle tissue it needs time. And maybe use the dbol at the end its always good to start with less and if u plateau u can use an oral to get some boost.
First cycle so you saying run 16 weeks on test and. Do d bol at end was going to. Use to. Kick start cycle
How long have you been eating 5-6K cals? Have you gained any weight since eating that much?
Great to see you back bro. Hope all had been okay.
Thanks. Everything going great. Doing as best I can without a gym right now.
Yes gained weight and bit muscle was waiting till gyms reopened to start full training but been working out every day at home
How many pounds was that in the last month?
Have you ran any cycles before?
About 5 pounds this. Months and first cycle want to. Gain atleast 20 pounds muscle
5 pounds is pretty good for a month. I would stick with that diet for a couple of months to put some good weight on first and then look at running a cycle. Really no need to cycle when putting on 5 pounds/month. Max the natty gains and then hit cycle. You could likely hit that 20 lb goal in 3-4 months with out even running a cycle given your starting stats. Cycle will be much more worthwhile and impressive then. We will need to work on that cycle, though. That PCT will ruin you. I wouldn't run that for a first cycle.
About a month now before that about 3000 4000 but will continue on cycle about 280 g protein 600 carbs 80 healthy fats wanted my diet well formed as hard gainer and get most out my cycle