Crazy what I was just told...
Ok so a guy I know just came into the gym and he's 23 years old. His first cycle ever was 4 weeks dbol and 12 weeks test E at 500mg a week .... NO PCT instead he jumps right into a cut cycle with t bombs, Clen and some test.... NO PCT, NO BREAK, now immediately after his last cycle, which was immediately after his first cycle he is running tren and a fucking GRAM of test?! He has been on for a year from the start of his very first cycle and absolutely no break between his first cycle to his third... Running compound like tren, a GRAM of test, t bombs and Clen? I tried to give him some help and guidance but he thinks because his dealer is big and told him its ok then he'll be fine. I seriously am afraid of what's gonna happen when he cycles off. Trt for life? Worst part is he was chunky before with very little work out knowledge and looks similar to when he first started. I know his training is shit and I'm sure his diet is bad as well... I just don't know what to say
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cant really help anyone that doesnt want help. point him in the right direction for good advice and knowledge and hope that he learns something from it. unfortunately, alot of people have to learn the hard way.
Wow did we talk to same guy? Was using machine today heard older guy talkkng to his friend told him he took first shot today and he realized I heard we got to talking he said he just got off a 20 week cycle of Tren and test cyp proper pct only one month off now he doing 20 week of primo/eq/tbol taking tbol for 8 weeks and EQ told him EQ need at least 16 and work best with test he said no!! He was paying 70 dollars a bottle of test that his friend homebreews and is "super clean"because he a pharmacist when told him my prices said my shit fake till pull up a pic or a blood test on the old phone ;) btw this kid was 400lbs and down to now 250 today...bf way to high for Anything be running big boy but wrong idea
Can't help them all...I know of AND have seen some bonehead shit just like this. Honestly, I really don't care when I see/hear this and I don't mean that in a cruel way. You have to figure out how to help yourself...and this "kid" will find out the error of his ways some day. It is just the way of the world brother.
He's spending all that money on gear and isn't the least bit concerned with maximizing gains let alone making sure he doesn't damage his body permanently. He looks like he did before his cycles? Hard to believe any of this.
TropicanaJuiceYour right I just made all this up lol. No he has the least bit of knowledge on how to run a cycle, doesn't know about nutrition or training therefore he doesn't look like he's been cycling for a year...
I don't get why people don't take the time to learn about the shit they are putting in their body's! I mean if you want to kill your self just use a gun!!! Deffantly tell your bro to come here.
AnonTell him to sign up in here.... and me and my brothers will take over from there
TropicanaJuiceI have! Lol I've told him this site is awesome and everyone is willing to help, if I didn't have this site I would be fucked. It's funny Ill ask him about important stuff like what's his nolva dosage in pct... Oh he is just taking clomid and that's it, that's all his dealer said he needs. Hasn't gotten bloods once, has no idea about this stuff it's just too bad, not to mention his training is something that needs serious correcting. I can't even imagine his diet
Some people just have to learn the hard way.
so tren and a G of test 2nd cycle is a bad idea? what should i lower it to, 900? lol jk brahs.
you can only try give him advice brother, at the end of the day he will learn that hard way
CleyonNothing you can say. He won't listen, he wants to get JACKED! and since his dealer is telling him to take the stuff he's going to do it. Invite him onto here, and tell him that there is a lot of knowledge in these hallowed halls. Just warn him to be ready to learn!
mr127superdeeoh thats nothing lol i had a gym dealer tell me that pct is one month of anavar at 70mgs ed nolvadex at 40mg and hcg lol it is fuckin incredible what some people are out there preaching btw i knew this guy was wrong about something when he lifted his shirt and i saw the worst case of gyno to date lol
TropicanaJuiceLmao, we'll ya var is really good in pct because its a mild steroid so it helps you recover while making games (totally kidding) lol
mr127superdeeso mild at that at 16 years old my poor lil doodle was as limp as a wet noodle lol this is really not a laughing matter! lol
mr127superdeeyes yesy yes! omg emphasize on the kidding alll we need is some newb to take that and run to the bank lmao!
read my "ive run anavar only" article to any newb reading this comment!
UFOYea my first year of using gear went something like that since I had horrible guidance and did little research on my own. Luckily I recovered and have since learned the proper way to cycle. Only thing you can try is to offer advice, which you did and he rejected, so fuck it. Not much else you can do, some just gotta learn the hard way.
TropicanaJuiceYa it just sucks he thinks he is doing it right because that's what he's been told by the guy who he gets his stuff from. Just too bad he's gonna crash hard and he's really lucky if he can recover
Daim, just bring up trt but like gargoyle mentioned prob wont listen
AnonAll you can do is offer guidance, but unfortunately some people only learn the hard way.
Chances are you aren't going to be able to change his mind. He obviously didn't research at all and trusts whoever is telling him this stuff. You can either try and talk some sense into him or just tell him to look you up when he comes off and his test is gone.