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Hey bro's,
Just started week 3 of my 600TestCyp/200TrenE/50Win(ED) while on 1g Arimadex/ED and I love the effects im getting so far with the win but I am gaining weight faster than I want to. This is my 4th cycle now.
To start I am 24, 6'3" 227lbs and 10.3% BF. I did cycles that had Cyp, Test E, EQ, Win in past and have over 8 years of serious weight lifting experience. I played football for high school and 2 years at a D-1 college. I also have had 4 knee surgeries for ACL, MCL, PCL, LCL and miniscus.
My diet is what I consider good and my routine is great. The question I have, is now I have been on this stack for going on 3 weeks and I am up to 234lbs and according to my electric hand bf caliper I am also up .3%bf in the same amount of time. I am trying to keep bf down and I don't understand why it is jumping on me. I have always had an easy time adding weight (both good and bad weight), but I am trying for lean mass here and strength with some size.
My diet is essentially the same for the most part every day and I have no cheating involved at all.
7AM 4whole eggs, 4egg whites scrambled with a whole grain english muffin and peanut butter
10AM Protein shake (42g pro, 7gram Carbs in water), handful of almonds
1PM Huge salad, light vinigrette dressing. 2 chicken breasts and cup of brown rice
4PM (Pre work out meal) Whole wheat bagel, almond butter and banana
630PM (Post) After Glow Supp (20g pro, 32g dextrose, 10g amino, 7g glutamine)
8PM 2 Chicken breasts (or baked fish) 2 cups mixed veg, 1 cup brown rice
11PM 1/2 cottage cheese, 2tbs peaut butter
I do literally the same meal plan everyday with zero crap extra. For the gym I usually lift for about an hour maybe an hour fifteen then do cardio. I do 5 sets of lifts, usually first set to warm up, next three sets are between 8-12 heavy and last set is light but till failure. My typical cardio is 5min uphill walk, 10 min run at 7.5mph, 5min HIIT, 10min uphill walk. I also have a huskie so he and I run every night for about 20 min.
I don't know everything but I have done my hw on this so please no comments on my age because I have been with a trainer and played D1 sports for years. I have experience with gear, but this is my first time with TrenE. Any advice while on this? Should I grab letro for water retention? I don't show any sides yet but I don't expect any for another week or so. My joints are still fine even with 50mg of win. Should I adjust my diet? I want to keep the lean mass coming but keep fat as low as possible. I appreciate all the advice and help. Im constantly learning so I do take all opinions and advice with an open mind
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zewiFirst cycle with Tren?
CleyonHe said first cycle with TrenE, so I don't know if you are asking whether he's new to all Tren or just that ester?
zewiYeah i should have cleared that up but yes new to tren or just tren e.
yeah first with tren, 2nd with cyp and win
zewiYour taking TREN what did you expect. Slow gaines? its score a 500. Slow is not what it does.
i know these arent slow gains, thanks for the sarcasm. I thought the effects werent supposed to come until around week 4 with this being the TrenE not TrenA. You think the diet is ok with this or what different shoudl I do to reduce bad weight gain?
CleyonLOL, you answered while I was typing!
So Tren is the only substance in this cycle that you haven't used before?
Yea never used tren before... any ester. I am asking more about being able to reduce fat gain while on it. Is that typical to go up .3% in 2 plus weeks?
zewiwatch your Diet, something could be off. But that will all be for not when you hit week 6 trust me. NO CARBS AFTER 2pm..
should i raise or drop something in my diet? what do you mean all for not at 6 weeks? And i will try the no carbs after 2pm, problem i had last time with that was my lifts are after work at 5pm so I feel drained... even no whole grain after 2?
CleyonI'm going to do my amature best to help on this one. Realize that I have never ran Tren, but have been researching it for my next cycle. Tren builds in the body during the first 5-6 weeks, you feel it, and get results, but after that it blows the doors off. One thing to watch is your diet. You need to be super clean or you can end up retaining water, and storing fat at night.
appriciate it man, so you think I should slash carbs in my diet? I am prone to water weight but I have been on arimadex and have nolva handy. Not sure if nolva will help with water. The diet i posted above literally stays exactly the same everyday with maybe a change of protein sources.
zewiDon't take the Nova on cycle. Keep it for PCT. Watch your Diet. and get that under control little tweaks here and there go along way. i'm not saying your diet is bad, just tweak here and there might help. , cause a hole new ride is about to start soon in about 3 weeks.
glad to hear that it only gets going from here, ill tell you what the pump, intensity and anger in the gym is insane so I cant wait to crank it up. I really appriciate you lettin me know. whats your thought on letro? my buddy said it kills your sex drive, but would it help with water retention?
zewiif your using arimidex you will be good.. Don't add more. Trust me changing the diet will help..
zewiX2.. Also as for your diet if you need that bagel that's fine--but really try to cut off the carbs and fruit after 2.
CleyonI like to cut them off at 5pm when I start my cycle, and then by week three have them cut off by 2pm. That works best for me if I keep the same number of carbs in for the day and just move them to the morning, but of course each person is different.
ight I will try the carb limiting with this, I just dont want to lose energy. Would I be alright moving my carbs early in the day rather than cutting them? So if im at 150g a day or 200... can I move them pre- 2pm? or should I just cut out everything past 2pm?
zewiyeah your good with that.
CleyonAnother cross post, that's what I just said! LOL. You don't want to be dragging ass. Just move them around to start with.
cool thank you both, ill keep it posted in couple weeks how it goes