posted Tue, 02/07/2012 - 13:53
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Bunk cycle
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I've been running a cycle of prop and npp for the last 8 weeks that I believe to be bunk. I've used HG gear in the past at low doses and it gave me some sides (not necessarily big gains due to the low dose) that I am not getting on cycle now. Not to mention, I haven't exactly seen any of the positive effects either.
I'd like to order from a new source and just continue on for another 8-10 weeks with some prop and maybe a low dose of tren. this would put me at around 20 wks total, assuming the gear im on now contains any hormone. is this safe? should i run pct as planned or what?
advice appreciated!
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I've never herd of anything like this, not responding to test when your levels are that high, makes me wonder if there is something else going on within your body. I hope you get some answers here bro!!
Not to offend, but what is your diet/training regimen? If this nor genuine HG gear is doing anything for you, there's something else in the way.
Anonno offense taken. when i'm bulking i eat around 5k cals and 400g protein. on cuts i'll track my diet to the calorie and lower it until i start losing about a lb a week. i feel like i know what im doing here.
lifitng wise, i've tried a lot of splits. currently, hitting one body part every 9-10 days (trying to give myself more rest than in previous cycles/splits). I'm hitting about 20-24 sets for major body parts and 12-14 for smaller ones like arms.
high volume? yes it is. in the past though i've experimented with lower volume and higher intensity. all seems to work about the same in terms of slow results.
Anonabout 6 months ago from the start of this one which i started end of nov/ beginning of dec
Anonok blood test came back and no doubt about it, gear is legit. total test was 4090.3 ng/dl
apparently i just dont get sides... or anything else...from that much test. what gives!? im more confused now...
some people just don't respond. Almost everyone does. Maybe you are one of the few that test just isn't for you. Your test levels are 5x normal.
There are no blanket effect statements with gear. You just proved it. And the bloodtest proved it's GTG.
Have you done this sort of cycle before? What is your cycle history and results from them?
AnonI'm not going to divulge my entire history hear but i'll say this:
I've been on HG grade gear and noticed nothing as well, except for some acne. My balls never shrank on that, never had increased libido, didn't gain any mass that was abnormal (meaning if i was eating to bulk i would gain a few lbs really slow and if i was eating to cut i lost appropriately). Only thing that I guess I ever noticed was a sense of well-being; I never noticed feeling depressed or down.
Now I've taken a few cycles with UGLs and have had the same experience I'm having now - but never got a blood test to confirm. I always thought I was just getting bunk stuff. After my last cycle, I basically had no results, went on to do PCT and after several months got a blood test that came out to show my test was over 700ng/dl - so back to normal. I never, ever notice anything between being on/off or in transition.
Maybe I am a non-responder, it's weird. Can't say shit about the gear though, def legit.
I've noticed this happens with a lot of optimal users. It's weird??? Me too, I don't get any sides, sex drive is not like when I was on cyp, and i'm not seeing many sides at 150mg eod. HOWEVEVER, i'm getting nightsweats which is good, and strength is actually going up 2-3 weeks after dropping dbol. Can you post a picture of your bloodwork in gear pics? This is very reassuring!
Anonhttp://www.eroids.com/pics/blood-results-abs-test-prop-and-npp
done!
ZEEK33Im doing the SAME THING right now!!! I was running a BUNK cycle for 8-10 weeks and was getting nothing from it.. then I started taking something new, and I new it right away, only took a few weeks and I was getting that old feeling back. the pumps at the gym, oil skin, sex drive went up.. So im going to do this real cycle now for 15 weeks then ill do my PCT... Thats just Me and Im okay with it! I think its Ok to do..
It is very discerning that your gear was bunk, :broski-hug:
I kinda feel like the review section should be for reviews only, and the non-reviews should just be deleted or moved to a new discussion forum.
How did your blood work turn out?
Anonnothing back yet...will update as soon i get them
Anonthanks...i sent him a friend request...hopefully he accepts.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkAnontell me about it man. guess what i ordered before that...axio! lol, i got it and then shit hits the fan with a ton of people talking about how bunk it is and how the sus 450 was giving them all sorts of issues. i need a mentor on this shit!
ZEEK33I was one of the guys talking alot of shit on the Sus 450... OMG that shit F-ed me UP!
AnonAB's optimal stuff. what kills me is that i go on the product reviews for prop and i'm seeing a few people that didn't get any results either. back when i ordered, there wasn't a bad review at all.
The same happened to me but I switched to another source after 5 weeks beacuse I wasn't feeling any difference; not pump; not increase in libido; it was just like if I wasn't on a cycle. I switched on week 6 and two weeks later thing started to change and did 8 weeks with great results.
if gear was bunk then you weren't really on cycle but on oil. so yes it would be fine. please name the bunk gear/ lab
Anonthis is true...when i asked the question i wasn't intending to get a blood test, which in hindsight is pretty stupid. my test levels a few months ago, on no gear was in the 700ng/dl range so i'm anxious to see where i'm at.
Im interested to hear an answer to this question...
tread-mWhat doses and increments on current cycle...give me hint at least.
Anon100mg/day of prop and 80mg/day of npp.
tread-mNo issue with continuing. The gear is bunk if your 8 weeks in. It would be very apparent 2 weeks in in terms of erections off and on "the feeling", pumps, vascularity if you have the ability to show well etc. I would still recommend current bloods be done to assess your test levels etc. Did you show any signs at all as I mentioned or otherwise? I would keep the tren out of it as well. Post stats and experience when asking for personal advice please.
Anonwent and got bloods done this morning so we shall see...
i'll update in about two days when i get results.
like tread said, erections would take a big hit shortly after starting npp. a sign its real. real test makes my back cbreak out and i am totally ok with that. any acne sides?
Anoni noticed no difference from my usual libido during the entire cycle so far. i typically will break out pretty bad on my shoulders and back if im using legit stuff. like i said, i've used human grade and that was the worst side by far...i have clear skin right now.