Best way to increase your oestrogen levels quick is to take 40mg of DBol for 4 or 5 days mate.

Bro, EQ crashing E2 is super common… you’re not alone. It’s a noob mistake most of us make early on before we fully understand how each compound messes with hormones. Boldenone suppresses aromatization hard, and if you’re also on an AI, that tanks estrogen even more. No big deal…. just drop the EQ, ditch any AI if you’re using one, and your E2 should rebound within a week or two.

For the cut, brother — Test + Mast (or Test + Primo) is plenty at 24% BF.(to be honest testo only would be safer but nothing safer than get into this whole scenario with a lower bf)…BTW - Even Test + Bold could work, but you’ll need to find your sweet spot…. maybe a 2:1 Test-to-Bold ratio. Just keep in mind Boldenone boosts appetite, which might not help during a cut.

Running both Var and Winny is overkill….you won’t get the dry, sharp, strong, and peeled look those orals are made for unless you’re already lean. I’d personally go with Var….it’s less harsh, especially for a first run. Save Winny for when you’re diced and chasing that stage-ready grain.

Get the diet and cardio dialed first. If you’re really tightening up, add Var for the last 4–6 weeks to finish strong and conditioned.

Just my little take….based on my experience in a real-world blasting.

I’d drop EQ now and run just test for the next two weeks and then drop that too (EQ’s halflife is longer). Go back to the drawing board, cut down to 15% bf (or preferably lower) and then run a cycle of test e 500 mg/wk. There are many reasons why everyone suggests that as a first cycle but one of them is that it prevents the problems you’re having now. Another one is that it works. At 75kg you can probably run the same cycle a couple times at least before you really need to add anything. There is a lot of good advice in this thread, I hope you’ll take it.

I don't think your E2 is crashed. Sure it's low. But as others have said, I don't understand the ratios of test to eq you're using and your body fat % is too high. Before starting trt completely natural at 40 years old my estradiol levels were 13.3. After 160 mg test cyp a week and 50mg enclomiphene EOD my estradiol levels were at 50.9 without using an AI.

Drop the eq for now. If you use it again you should use a much smaller amount. I want to use primo but the sources I trust are out, also it's expensive. So i'm considering trying a cycle of Test, EQ, and NPP. Starting ratios of 300, 100, 100. After one month get bloodwork to see how my body has responded and possibly ramp up from there or potentially cut something out if bloods are not good.

I'm very new to this so probably not in a position to give advice so take this with a grain of salt. Everyone always says test only first cycle and they're probably right. But what I don't agree with is that people seem to recommend high doses of test. I'd say start small and get blood work done often. Also I don't think AI's are as bad as many people suggest. Find a dose where you dont have to use any but if you push the test I'd recommend using an AI at small amounts. Blood work is key. I see so many people say to take test until you experience sides. I think you should start small and ramp up slowly while getting bloodwork done often. I for one don't want gyno so I'm not waiting for sides I'm staying on top of bloodwork.

End the cycle. Eq takes bout 4 weeks to leave the system.

You made a mistake doing this for your first run, but I don’t bullshit anyone, besides your E2 being low, and yes it could be worse, your bloods aren’t terrible, they’re reflective of someone using steroids and tolerating them well actually. Look, if you’re taking real drugs, which you obviously are, blood markers are going to change. The parameters you’re over in are just over the line. Most doctors would tell you to clean things up a little, a good vacation bender would produce these same numbers. Moving on, give your body a couple of months to recoup, get a good diet plan together (I wouldn’t take PEDS at 24% BF) and run testosterone only. Thats only my two cents, don’t take it as gospel.

You are poster boy of why they say first cycle testosterone only You didnt take any form whatsoever of AI? Only the boldenone kept your estrogen low? Thats new to me. I can see maybe masteron at super high doses and low dose of testosterone. So if you are that sensitive definitely no masteron at a higher dose than your testosterone. Who told you its better to ho higher on the other compounds on your first cycle? Your prolactin and estrogen are still in range. Describe "crashed". Is it the feeling or you just reading numbers?

First off, you shouldn’t have started at bulking cycle at 24% body fat. You want to get as lean as possible with just dieting and lifting. Those need to be foundationally driven into you. They will be the backbone for the rest of your life. You can easily get to 10-12% bodyfat with just 300-400mg of Test with a 500-calorie deficit. 24% is way too high. Way too much estrogen conversion at that high of body fat. Way too many effects on blood pressure. Try not to ever go above 15%. Wait until you can see your abs, and then bulk while maintaining your ab wall. So, scratch both of your ideas of this "I’m going to bulk then cut." Just hit 10% bodyfat, might take you 4 months might take you 12 months but do that first. Know what if feels like to diet down to 8-10%.

Second, you need to get the most of out of just test before you starting adding compounds. Especially EQ that impacts red blood cell production the most out of any compound. How do you feel on Test at 200mg 400mg 600mg 800mg 1000mg 1200mg. How does your body respond to each increase? How does your mental health, well-being, e2, RBC count, blood pressure, liver, kidneys respond each time you bump up another 200mg. You shouldn’t be messing with winstrol at all unless you are going to step on stage and with 24% bodyfat that won’t be happening for a long long time.

Third, even tho your E2 is crashed on paper how do you feel? Do you feel like dog crap or do you feel fine? If you feel fine then don’t worry about it. It will come back eventually. If you feel completely awful like most do, you could run Dbol for 1-2 weeks at 20mg to get your estrogen back up. 600/mg of test 20mg dbol for 2 weeks, get E2 tested, drop the dbol week 2.

EQ has a very long half-life. If you started with 600mg and ended on week 17, you have 10 weeks to go until EQ is out of your system.
Here's what you should do. Keep test as it is for the next 10 weeks and just run test. Start dieting down to 12% body fat. Use a TDEE calculator to figure out how many calories you need for a 500-calorie deficit and continue running 600mg test until all that fat is gone. Having 24% bodyfat is going to cause so many issues with all your future cycles. If you diet down to 12% then you won’t run into a laundry list of future problems.
Once you hit 12% body fat with 600mg test, whether that happens in 10 weeks or 48 weeks. Then give your body a break and drop back down to a trt dose of 200mg-300mg of test for 4 weeks.

Now you are ready to bulk, you've got at least your ab wall to gauge whether you are getting too fat while you bulk, you've got healthy blood markers and normal E2. You've got a better understanding of your diet, mind-muscle connection, you know what routine in the gym works best, and you know how you respond.

Start your bulk with 400mg test and a 300-calorie surplus past your maintenance. Run that while in a surplus and you can still see your ab wall. You don’t need huge numbers if it’s your first cycle, you need to prioritize using as little as possible while still making gains. This is a very long marathon. Think 20 years. The most insane mass monsters like Nick Walker, the best he ever did was put on 10lbs in 1 year and that is with crazy genetics. Unless you are a crazy genetic mass monster like him, you will see 2lbs to 5-lbs of pure muscle gain during your first year. It might not seem like a lot but throw 5lbs of chicken into your shopping cart and visualize that as pure muscle. 5lbs is an amazing start. 2-4lbs is more probable. You can take all the drugs you want, once you come off the weight comes off. Just because you ran 1000mg of test and 50mg of anadrol and the weight went up 30lbs in 3 months means nothing. As soon as you are back to a cruise dose the real gains are what’s left.

3 months of 400mg of test, 300-500 calorie surplus, focus on your diet, retaining your ab wall, gym routine, mind muscle connection, mental health, and blood tests panel.
3 months of 600mg of test, 300-500 calorie surplus, after 4 weeks check your E2. Is your E2 within range? Then keep running 600mg of test.
3 months of 800mg of test, 300-500 calorie surplus, after 4 weeks check your E2,. Is your E2 within rage? Then keep running 800mg of test.
3 months of 1000mg of test, 300-500 calorie surplus, after 4 weeks check your E2, Is your E2 within rage? Then keep running 1000mg of test.
During those 12 months when did your E2 get too high. Once it is out of range, now you can introduce an androgen that also works similar to an AI. Maybe at 600mg you notice your E2 is high. Add 50% of your test dose as primo or mast and check your blood work 4 weeks after adding the primo/mast. Did it drop your E2 within range. If yes then that’s your indicator of when to add your primo/mast to control E2 and you know what dose. Did it not lower your E2 enough with 50%, try 75% of your test.
3 months 600mgTest/300mg primo or if you need 75% 600mg of test 450mg of primo. Continue bulking while maintaining your ab wall.
3 months of 800mg of test/400mg of primo or if you need 75% 800mg test/600mg primo. Continue bulking.
3 months of 1000mg of test/500mg of Primo or if you need 75% 1000mg of test/750mg of primo. Continue bulking.

Now you’ve completed a full 1-year bulk, you kept your ab wall, you gained some nice muscle that will stay on for the most part as you take a 1-month break. You also know when to add your primo and how much you need to add and if primo caused any hair loss or sides. If you can’t run primo or mast because of sides then look into an ai while you bulk with test. You are trying to get the most out of test while figure out how it affects you and remaining healthy during the entire 1 year. You learned a lot about your body, diet, gear, and are ready to enjoy a 1-month break. Drop test down to 200-400mg and let your body rest.
Now for your 2nd year you can introduce Deca and see how you respond and feel on a Deca bulk for a year.
Deca takes a while to build up in your system so a beginning Deca cycle looks like this.
200mg NPP weeks 1-4
300mg Deca weeks 1-4
400mg Test weeks 1-4
100mg Npp week 5
350mg Deca week 5
600mg Test week 5
400mg Deca week 6
600mg Test week 6
Continue 400mg Deca/ 600mg Test for the remainder of this bulk.

With the NPP kickstart, you are gauging how you feel and how your body responds to Deca/Npp. Are you the type that needs higher deca and lower Test? Are you someone who needs Higher Test and Lower deca? Does it raise your E2, does it mess with your mental health some people get anxiety some don’t. Do your joints feel great. Do you retain your ab wall. How’s your diet is 500 calorie surplus too high and need to drop to 300 calories? Can you bump up to 700 calories surplus while keeping your ab wall? Are you good to go? Great let’s keep bulking for this year 2.

For week 6 Now that Deca has fully reached its peak levels and you know how you respond to it drop NPP entirely and continue bulking on Test/Deca. Remember your notes when you needed to introduce primo/mast to keep your E2 in range. Add your primo/mast to your Test/Deca once it reaches that point. Let’s say it was 600mg test and you need 75% of your primo dose to keep your E2 in range. Add your primo week 5 so it builds before week 6 hits.
Week 5
350mg Deca 600mg Test 450mg Primo. Check your E2 after 4 weeks. Is the Deca raising your estrogen too high and 75% primo isn’t doing it, do you need to drop primo and add an AI. Is that your sweet spot? How do you feel, how’s your mental health, sleep, diet? Great? Ok keep running that for the rest of your bulk and finish the year strong. That is plenty of gear to grow for the remainder of year 2. You kept your ab wall, your joints feel fantastic, you're seeing monthly gains, you feel great look great, life is good. That is a 2-year bulking plan, you took it slow, you understand the compounds and know how your body responds to different ones. You gained some great muscle that will mostly stay on as you take your next break.

Now you can plan out more. Do you want to run a Tren Bulk. Tren can be both great for a cut and a bulk but does come with new sides and you should plan accordingly. Do you want to run some orals like Anavar/Anadrol. Some Orals do much better added at the end of your bulk the last 8 weeks you can see great gains with an Anadrol finisher. Maybe you want to try 20-50mg of Anavar for your next Bulk. Maybe trying Test/Deca/Primo bulk, while maintaining your ab wall, and introducing GH. First month 4ius, Second month 6ius, Third month 8ius, Fourth month 10ius. Finish your 3rd year of bulking with Test/Deca/Primo/GH while maintaining your Ab Wall. See how you respond to Growth. If you can’t grow on Test/Deca/Primo/GH and 300-500 calorie surplus then now you know this lifestyle may not be for you. But with that 3-year plan you should see some great gains. At any point after a bulk you can do a nice 16week cut. Better if you bulk for a few years. But when the time comes, you already have your ab wall because you kept an eye on it the entire time. You're hovering around 12-15% body fat and you have a cut that won’t be insanely difficult to drop down to 8% and see the rewards. Enjoy the marathon. 20 more years to go. You will look amazing by year 5 and might start looking to enter your first contest to get your feet wet and to see how it feels to step up on stage. Year 5 you can begin all the research or maybe higher a coach for contest-prep cycles now that you are ready. Introducing Wintsrol, Halo, compounds that you really don't need to run until that time comes.