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+ 1 Blast and Cruise with Test only questions

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Quick background...I'm 49 and have been on TRT for 9 years. I have been a gym rat for over 25 years and the reason for cycling is I have plateaued regardless of how many ways I change my routine/diet. So looking to see how much more can I grow on moderate doses of test.

I started cycling with test only about 1 year ago. I just statred my third cycle of Test E 500mg and Proviron 50mg per day. The previous two cycles were just Test 500 mg. My first cycle sucked because my test was under dosed and have the bloods to prove it. Second was much better.

My questions are can you run blast and cruise with test only (maybe with proviron) and continue to see gains? Would it be possible to gain an average of 5 pounds of muscle per blast? Or will the growth/gains eventually slow down as you get close to your genetic limit?

Blast would be 12 weeks with a cruise of 8 - 12 weeks. Cruise dosage is my TRT dosage of 125mg.

MedDx's picture

Yes..if your diet is spot on you will see gains by increasing TRT doses to standard cycle doses...I've seen people post on here about going for 8 weeks...gains may be slightly better, probably more so with provi on board...I have always tried to keep diet in check, but at times I slip...when I slip...I see it, especially on the scale.

Gear Head posted some good info about how he just hit 300 lbs and he is 68"...his gain was a solid 8 lbs...imho, when you have been in the industry and know your shit like he does, an 8 lbs solid gain is fucking exceptional!! I have been looking for gains over the course of the last 6 yrs, along with experience in AAS, since 17, and it's only the last 4 yrs that I've grasped the concept of the total picture, bro. My first cycle, I gained a solid 18 lbs, all the other gains have been 10 lbs, then 5 lbs thereafter, and thats with 100mg/week of Test E. However, with a combined effort of blood work and modified lifting techniques, cardio and diet regimen, I've continue to progress! Yea, I've had some setbacks, but it's nothing that can't get worked out. Those setbacks are where I've learned the most and i like what I do.... Smile

Dickkhead's picture

Dang bro, please don't make me any shorter than I am! I'm 69" not 68" And, yes, I did hit 305 lbs. on my last bulk but I have slimmed down to 275. LOL Smile Smile

Bulkdaddy's picture

What are your macros? What is your diet like bro?

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Meathead40's picture

My macors is 40/40/20. My calorie intake is between 4000 to 5000 during my cycle. As you can tell from my weight gain from my first two cycles I didn't eat enough. I've done my research and have upped my calories. My biggest fear is that I'll gain a lot of fat. I put on fat/weight very easily when I don't watch my calorie and carb intake.

I'm doing 40/40/20 and current calorie intake based on what I have read and asking a competitive BB.

MedDx's picture

Your daily protein intake needs to be 350g for your current weight. Keep your carbs around 175-200g/d....and get those carbs in before 1400 hrs, if you're not already...Viking always stated this time frame with carbs...after adding up the amount of time your body doesn't intake carbs, you will start to notice a difference in appearance.

MedDx's picture

My biggest fear is that I'll gain a lot of fat. I put on fat/weight very easily when I don't watch my calorie and carb intake.

Do you walk, cycle, jump rope, jog?

Bulkdaddy's picture

40/40/20? Be a little more specific buddy... I know it's protein carbs and fats. Which is which label it please.. How often are you eating? So your carb sensitive... Ever try Carb cycling? Your 229 what's your BF? Pictures help so much better because I could tel you exactly what your carb intake needs to be daily... What are your goals? i would lean down if I were you! If you are 229 14% that's good if you ask me for your age...

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Makwa's picture

What were the net gains from your other cycles?
Where is your BF% at?

Meathead40's picture

I gained 4 pounds from the 1st cycle and 12 pounds from the 2nd cycle. After my 2nd cycle my body fat was @ 14%, but I just measured it yesterday and it's at 16%