posted Mon, 04/09/2012 - 09:03
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Best Naturally Maintainable Stack?
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What is the best stack(s) to do that could be maintained after the cycle has completed (without significant loss)?
The answer to this is for the blokes that don't want to be reliant on GEAR to stay beastin, but simply reach a certain point and then maintain naturally.
Appreciate the time.
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what it depends on is your ability to metabolize food...If your built but not big. As stated previously, once you hit a threshhold it is impossible to maintain size or strength w/ out some extra testosterone. Your body will only be able to metabolize x amount of calories w/ out gaining weight(fat). The key is finding your magic #, and one has to expect you wont have the same swole look leavin the gym you had on cycle... No matter what, you wont be quite as strong as you felt before... Your naturally maintained max is entirely dependant on you... What you eat, how hard you train, how you hold weight personally. Some people are naturally lean, some people naturally carry more weight. It goes back to metabolization of food and what you eat..
Ultimately....You're not going to maintain naturally what you achieved unnaturally.
Appreciate the responses. The key point from this (that I get)....Is the natural max is what can be maintained naturally....Anything above that will have to be produced through a AAS cycle (or GH). That answers the big question (I appreciate it). The one that is un-answered is whether or not AAS cycles permantely affect your natural T-levels to where your body can't produce or maintain without additional cycles......The point to this thread was for those who only want to get to their natural max (quicker) and to maintain....without a constant dependency on AAS. But, I get the pringles point, in addition to the fact that you mad men (complimentary) want to keep beastin well past the normal points that you would naturally be capable of.
You got it bro, in my case i far supassed my natty abilities in my mid 20s and became a consistant user of aas to keep up with my competition goals,at my age now i would suspect my natty test production will be on its knees so to speak,i dont use to create extreme mass these days,the main reason would be the ability to recover faster because i still choose to train extremly heavy and intense,also having a nice stable test level keeps the lady very happy also lol,like tread said everything is created and maintained in the kitchen has he will soon find out,i plan on spending the summer on his ranch so i hope he has got the freezer well stocked cos this old guy is one hungry bastard lol.
tread-mThe kitchen is where you got it, the kitchen will be where you keep it.
sgtstedankoThat depends on your stats, brother! STATS!!! Age, height, weight, etc, etc, etc... Honestly Viking is right. IMHO, AAS are like pringles. In that once you pop, you can't (won't want to stop) : ) There are certain compounds that are certainly easier to maintain than others. But your gains will be less substantial, immediately anyway. Not in the long run. Just my opinion... Research, research, research...
U can only maintain (forever) as much as your natural max. If u don't keep cycling eventually u will lose gains until like I said u reach your natural max as long as u have good routine and diet. Once u start cycling not much point just stopping... But the easiet to maintain from cycles would be compounds that give u slow steady gains like Equipoise etc...
Unfortunatly entering the darkside means exactly that!!!
Once entered you either keep it going or quit for ever.
Copy Viking - appreciate the response....But considering that the results from some GEAR keeps....and T-levels can return to normal....Maintaining the gains that remain is a fair assumption correct? (naturally with diet, and staying consistent in the gym)...If the answer is 'No' its a good heads up to those considering cycles (and to possibly consider the GH route....or sticking with the long road - staying completely natural).