Advice on Prohormone Stack Cycle, SARMS, Albuterol
Hi guys, new to the forum and first time poster. Got some questions regarding a PH stack I'm planning on running.
As a bit of background, I'm 26 years old, 178cm (5'10) and 86kg (189.5lbs), based in the UK. I'm an olympic weightlifter so building muscle mass is not my biggest concern, rather improving my strength. Been lifting for around 3-4 years natty, and I'm looking to push to the next level and want a bit of enhancement! >
My planned cycle is as follows:
Stanodrol 400mg / day Weeks 1-4
Epistane 40mg / day Weeks 1-4
IronLabs Cycle Support 4 tabs / day (to help with liver, blood pressure etc) Weeks 1-4
PCT
Nolvadex 20/20/10/10 Weeks 5-8
IronLabs PCT Xtreme 4/3/2/2 Weeks 5-8
I've chosen mostly androgenic PH's as I'm looking for strength gains and leaning out as opposed to sheer muscle mass.
My questions are as follows:
1) How does this look for a second time PH cycle? I ran epi by itself a couple of years ago with very little results as I didn't know much about it and ended up not training much as I was very busy. Certainly felt good whilst I was on it though.
2) Can anyone recommend how I might factor in a SARM into this cycle? I've been researching S4 (Andarine) and was wondering if/how this might work in conjunction with the PH's I've chosen. Would it be better to run during the cycle or during PCT?
3) Would running albuterol during this PH cycle have much benefit? I'm really looking to cut as much bodyfat as possible whilst maintaining or ideally gaining strength, and I've heard good things about albuterol. Also still looking for a reliable source on this, so if anyone knows any on the UK list it would be very helpful!
Thanks guys!
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what is the point of using prohormones aince they have been added to the anabolic steroid ban list? if you get caught with them you get the same penalty as testotserone or dbol etc you my as well get the real shit and make the cycle worth while. i used them back when they were legal to avoid breaking the law but now like i said its the same offense....
and lets not confuse prohormones with designer steroids two totally different things... epistane is a designer steroid just like msten halodrol dmz methyl 1 ad i can keep going. im not going to say these compounds dont work because they do i know they do cause i used em alot but theyre not worth the damage they do to your body. you are going to lose a good 70 to 80 percent of what you gained within 3 to 4 weeks i promise you even if you do those "pct" shit they sell with em. man up and stick a needle in your ass or delt whatever or stick to protein and creatinev
Go find a prohormone forum.
My advice, stay away from PH -- I know people who developed gynecomastia by using them. I don't know much about SARMS but have read several articles indicating they caused cancer, no matter what the dose, in all animal studies (Here's a link to a non-scientific article: https://legionathletics.com/sarms/).
As Rusty already mentioned, they are harsh on the liver (even more so than steroids) and give you minimal returns by comparison. If you want to fuck up your health, I say go for it!
Surely though with a non aromatising ph like epi there is little to no concern for gyno? The liver stuff I do understand, but my lifestyle is very good (clean diet and no alcohol or drugs) so I'm not a high risk candidate at least.
Perhaps I should just stay natty a bit longer and consider taking the plunge into aas.
"building muscle mass is not my biggest concern"
-don't worry any mass & strength you gain in those 4 "cycle" weeks will be lost during pct
"I'm really looking to cut as much bodyfat as possible whilst maintaining or ideally gaining strength"
-then lower calories and/or increase cardio
I've heard a lot of mixed reviews of prohormones, but can you really honestly say they're that useless? What makes you more likely to maintain gains from aas than from prohormones? Seems illogical but perhaps there's something I'm missing.
The majority of pro-hormones convert to progesterone, let alone the fact they are more likely than AAS to cause Fatty Liver Disease. Unless you have Bromocriptine or Cabergoline on hand, I wouldn't fuck with them. Bitch tits are not the goal.
How may studies have been conducted on the effects of pro-hormones? The truth is, not much is known about them.
Edit: I looked at the ingredients of the commercial on-cycle and post-cycle support that you listed -- they're not anywhere near as protective of your liver as you might think, especially not for a pro-hormone cycle.
And the word "whilst" is annoying as hell!
RustyhookerGarbage. Harsh on liver for no returns and testosterone shutdown.
Pix or proof of stats and goals?
I can't really provide any pictures of my stats, but if you want to see my lifts I can pm you my Instagram account.
RustyhookerNaaa. Keep your self safe online buddy. We take pix and cut out our heads if we post.
Ph is just garbage. If you're in good shape and not looking for mass....skip the roids or ph. Tgey will screw you up slowly