posted Wed, 08/08/2012 - 01:48
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Advice on mass cycle please
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29 years old
180 lbs
6'1
4th cycle
So my usual cycles include deca, test and dbol. I do get good results from this cycle but i always seem to lose most of my gains from stress and just not eating enough calories post cycle
My last cycle was
dbol weeks 1-5 30mg
deca weeks 1-8 300mg stopped the deca becuase of bad deca dick(maybe i should of taken more test)
test-e weeks 1-12 500mg
For my next cycle i was thinking of trying the following:
Dbol weeks 1-4 30-50mg
test-e weeks 1-14 600mg
equipose weeks 1-14 200mg
maybe include deca weeks 1-12 300mg???
also is hcg really worth taking?
Any advice especially from the gurus would be really appreciated.
Thanks guys.
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I would say HCG is definitely worth taking especially if you are going with a Test E\EQ\Deca combo. It has definitely helped me retain my gains and feel a lot better during PCT. 250 IU monday/thursday starting week 3-4 and continuing through the remained of your cycle will keep your nuts from shrinking and it will make your recovery a lot easier/faster.
I am currently putting together my own bulk cycle. It is consisting of Test E\EQ\Tren E with a 50 mg per day dbol kick start.
I would definitely increase the EQ doseage as many people will tell you that 200 mg per weeks will not yield significant gains. If you are trying to keep your cycle mild then I guess that is a good place to start. I am personally running 600 mg a week on my next cycle.
Anonshould definitely run more test to combat that problem and always run deca atleast 12 weeks, because deca takes so long to get started good,,, test/deca is a great mass builder esp. w/dbol at 40-50mg/day
zewiYour on to something on the cycle you were thinking. Remember to keep gains its about diet and a good pct. Diet Diet Diet..
IMO here is what i would run..(I never take Deca and D-bol at the same time)
Uncle Zewi's run..
1-4 Dbol 30mg ED
1-4 Test P @ 100mg EOD
1-14 EQ @ 400mg a week
1-14 Test e @ 500mg a week(if you want this 600mg im good with that)
15-17 Test p @ 100mg EOD
Arimidex .25mg e3d if nipples get sore .5mg e3d or .5mg ed..
PCT Start 3 days after last shot.
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nova 40/40/20/20
Thanks for the reply zewi.
I tried test-p as a taper at the end of my last cycle and i got the most crippling pip. I was literally walking around on a crutch for 3 days. So i'm staying away from test prop.
I might just kick the dbol up to 50mg on week 2 to compensate for no test prop.
Just wondering if 200mg of equipose, 300mg of deca and 600mg of test-e per week would work well together. Any1 ever tried a cycle like this?
zewiFair enough.. IMO sure you can run that cycle. But i would up the Test to 750mg from looking at your past...
IMO if all i had was Deca, Test E, EQ and Dbol at my hands this is how my cycle would go...Sale the DECA
Both EQ and Deca have similar affects--However, IMO EQ works much better then Deca, with better gains and having those gains stay on.(And it looks like Deca doesnt like you)
1-4 Dbol 50mg ED
1-16 EQ @ 400mg a week
1-18 Test E @750mg a week
Arimidex .25mg e3d if nipples get sore .5mg e3d or .5mg ed..Take Arimidex all the way up until you start your PCT
PCT Start 15 days after last shot.
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nova 40/40/20/20
However, you have taken enough cycles were Tren might be something you should start researching for that little extra kick your looking for. around that 75mg ED or 100mg EOD. Something like this..
1-4 Dbol 50mg ED
1-16 EQ @ 400mg a week
1-18 Test E @750mg a week
15-18(4 weeks) Tren A 100mg EOD
Arimidex .25mg e3d if nipples get sore .5mg e3d or .5mg ed..Take Arimidex all the way up until you start your PCT
PCT Start 15 days after last shot.
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nova 40/40/20/20
Thanks zewi i really appreciate your help. I think i will leave the deca out completely. I'm likeing the first cycle alot. Maybe only 16 weeks on the test-e.
Just did a bit of research on tren. Supposed to be a very harsh steroid. U think this would be a good idea at the end of a cycle? I'm starting to think i really need a taper at the end of this cycle or i'm gonna crash really hard!
zewiNo I’m not saying do tren now, tren is a choice because it does score a 500 on the anabolic scale higher than anything. I only mentioned it for research. I’m not saying do tren, just saying it might help at the end at that low dose.
The reason I have the Test E to 18 weeks is because that is like a taper. If you stop Eq And Test E at the same time you have to wait 24-28 days to start PCT because of the EQ.. so why wait that long do 2 more weeks of Test E wait 15 days than start PCT much better that way then waiting and extra 7 to 14 days to start PCT.
Also if tren is not for you--look into Tbol, Anavar, or mast to end your cycle.
u think this is a low dose cycle? Holy shit man how much gear are u on!? I might give tren a try at the end of my cycle if i'm not happy with my results. Just a bit worried about the side effects like erectile dysfunction that's all.
Thanks for clearing up the 18 weeks test e taper. Really appreciate this man, can't wait to start this cycle.
zewiAs long as you have TEST you will be fine. No worries there.
Well what cycle are you going to run what are you thinking?
1-4 Dbol 50mg ED
1-16 EQ @ 400mg a week
1-18 Test E @750mg a week
Arimidex .25mg e3d if nipples get sore .5mg e3d or .5mg ed..Take Arimidex all the way up until you start your PCT
PCT Start 15 days after last shot.
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nova 40/40/20/20
I think this cycle is perfect for me. Like i said i might add in the tren at the end. I'll see how the cycle goes. Just have to make the order now and hope it gets through customs!
zewiit will and if your diet is good. you wont need tren you will get everything you want out of that..
Thank you for all your help my friend. Wish i could give u some karma. Sorry
He has done a good job here for you! i just sat in the background watching him work... i will hit him +3 on your behalf brother!
Gonna +3 you also for showing a good attitude towards the advice given... have a good cycle bro any problems you hit us up again ok.
zewiThanks brother always means alot when it comes from you..
Thank you very much viking. I'm loving the cycle zewi gave me and can't wait to get started. Just a quick question... should i be taking an anti aromasin on these levels of test?
Anti - Aromatase you mean lol... imo have adex on hand if you are not prone to gyno or high estrogen levels... if any of these pop thier head up start taking adex EOD to start with to see how your body reacts... again learn these compounds just like you would steroids... too many people start taking everything from day one then shit happens and you have to dis/assemble the cycle to find the culprit.
Zewi has the adex already listed in the plan (arimidex) use if needed bro.
Ah ok thanks. I've never needed to take something like arimidex but on these levels of test maybe i will.
zewiarimidex--will do two things keep bloating at a min, and estrogen in check. You don’t have to start right away. You can wait when your nipples get sore. But for me .25mg e3d always seems to be enough, and it’s easy to adjust if sides come. You already have something in your body, instead of trying to get something in.. You just raise the dose and when you take it.
Ok nice one. Appreciate it my friend.
zewiAnytime.. Uncle Zewi is always here...lol + 3 from me for this thread.. Nicely done Colimus
wow thank you
Haha you are in good hands here,have a good safe cycle and maybe post up some pics of the fab results
Anonthere she is was wondering when you was gonna pop up miss pro, i admire you and the hubby, 2 pros under the same roof---- rare ;) a match made in heaven
i will do thank you