+ 3 Advice and questions before i take my first shot to my first cycle.
I am just about to take my first shot kicking off what hopefully will be my first safe and successful cycle. I have one question right now as I have done about a years worth of research but my question is would there be any problem sticking on my cut diet during my first two weeks after taking my first injection of cyp? This is my very first post so please be kind if this is a dumb question but being my first cycle my head is filled with "what if's" even thought deep down i probably know that answer. But i have dropped from 18% bf to now 12% bf and would like to use these 2 weeks or so before the cyp takes affect to try and drop to 11% bf before moving to a high calorie intake. Is there an issue here or am i just retarded?
Also here are my stats and first cycle info, also feedback would be very appreciated, as thats mainly what i am looking for, thanks!
29 years old
5'8"
178
12% bf
Cycle is:
Test cyp 250 2 x week (14 week total)
Arimidex .25mg eod at start on through pct (what is your advice on waiting 2 weeks before starting this?)
PCT
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolvadex 40mg daily
I also bought deca 500mg/ml 10ml but not sure i want to do that first cycle. If i do it will be on start of week 5 split 250 x 2 weekly. But again I am not sure if I will do it this cycle.
Thanks for any input!
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This is the type of new member I like to see on the boards...open to advice, takes it in and will use it for a successful cycle. +1 bro for asking for advice and actually taking it. Be safe, eat big and train like a beast.
Beastmode....engaged
That is not much i thought it would be more. Thanks for that info man ill call around today after work and see who is cheap and doesnt have an issue with assisting me while on AAS.
You are right I was saying test ran 14 weeks total. The deca is for a future cycle. Thanks for the info about 14 weeks being ok to do with test c.
Thanks. I wasnt planning on running the deca this go so i didnt buy any cabergoline or bromocriptine. I purchased it due to the fact it was on a special discounted price (Geneza) so i got it. Ill save it for my next go. I was going to go 14 weeks due to the fact that I have 14 weeks worth of test, so is there any issues running at 14 weeks? As for the blood test im not sure as i dont have insurance so im not sure what to do to get them done with a budget you know... So any thoughts on options for the blood work will be appreciated. As for the AI on week 4 that sounds good, i'll have it on hand if i see or feel any estro issues starting.
Thanks
Pay for your blood work. Don't run it thru insurance. Doing so could negatively effect your premiums down the road. $60 bro. That's nothing.
TronIs your question "is there any issues running at 14 weeks" asking can you run the deca at that point?? The answer is no and I don't think that's what you meant ... just wanted to be clear. Now if your asking is it ok to run test for 14 weeks the answer is yes. That's perfect for a first cycle.
Dont forget pre, mid, and post cycle blood work....
Start ADEX on week 4. U need estro to grow. Keep us posted with signs and symptoms of high estro like acne and edema in the ankles. If u start your ADEX too soon, you will crash your estro.
Decrease your cycle time to 12 weeks.
Research PCT, like mentioned below from Bar...
No 19-nors for first cycle, as mentioned by bros below.
Diet macros to meet goals 300g protein/200g CHO/120g fat per day. This macros can be based off a 3500-5500 daily caloric intake.
I just checked a good friend of mine on his edema problem in his ankles. Told him what it was, why he's getting it and that its not good and what he can do to fix it. His response
"Man that always happens im not worried". No matter what I told him he wouldn't budge.
Keep talking to him about it. Effective cycles come with complient AAS users that maximize their gains by following proper protocol.
TronGo ahead and start putting on mass after the first shot man. Since this is your first cycle your going to grow like crazy and your body is going to need all those calories. Eat good clean food though. Test is going to help you lose body fat anyways and the more muscle you put on the more fat your body will burn naturally. when the cycle is over test your body fat again and see where you are. If you want at that point diet and shred that shit up! PCT looks good and plus one for waiting and doing research. Don't do the deca. For one you don't want to run 2 compounds in your first cycle... it's not necessary. And for 2 you don't have anything like Caber to fight the prolactin from the Deca (at least you didn't list any). Good luck and do before and after pics. we love stuff like that and could score you a lot of karma points.
I always transition from a cut to a bulk etc.. So adding 200 calories a week instead of going from 2500 to 4500 etc. This method I believe helps me keep fat off when cutting to bulking or keep new gains bulking to cutting. While on AAS does it matter? I don't know. For a first cycle I think you should reap the benefits of a bulk. So i thinj you should finish your cut and then eventually start a bulking cycle
Thanks, and yes im looking to just put on mass this cycle. I figure i can cut more bf down while i wait 6 months before i think of doing my second cycle just wanted to get it as low as possible to avoid issues that come with high bf on cycle. Thanks for the pct feedback as well.
I applaud the fact that you are sticking to Test only as your first cycle. Your BF is good range for this cycle. It really depends on your goals. Test can be used to cut or bulk. I dont think it would hurt your gains in the end if you stuck to your cut for the first two weeks.
But at 178lbs bro you should just begin that bulk to put on quality mass. Eat, eat and eat some more.
Also you might wanna drop the Nolva to 20mg ed after the first two weeks of Pct. Aro has been used in PCT with great results also.
Be safe, eat big and train hard bro. And remeber to rest. Have fun brother.
P.S. save the Deca for another cycle.1 compound for the first cycle.
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