posted Tue, 01/07/2014 - 13:46
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Adding halo or mast to anavar cycle
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Thinking about adding halo or masteron prop to my anavar cycle. Goals are get as strong as possible without gaining weight!
I'm 26 days into my Anavar cycle.
Week 1 50 mg
Week 2 75 mg
Week 3 75 mg
Cycle assist twice a day
Proviron every day at 25 mg
Daa 3g
The anavar is real and everything is going okay but not great. Strength gains are minimal.
Thinking about adding 10-20 mg of halo on lifting days or adding mast at 100 mg EOD.
Have about 5 weeks of var left.
My diet and training are on point and have been for a long time. Stats are on bio. Powerlifter hat is weight class limited.
Leaning towards halo but your advice is greatly appreciated !!!
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Well brosky, it's been a full week since your last post. What happened? I and I'm sure hundreds of others are just dying to know. I use halo in BB contest prep. Powerlifters will run it a couple of weeks before a meet with escalating dosages along with some other standard things so I have learned over the years from my buds in that sport. You're gonna eat Halotestin tablets for two weeks and then start PCT? But only if
Please do tell us all what happened. I want to learn. Really I do. I read this whole train wreck thread multiple times. You're a whiff away from steroid abuse, bro. My opinion, of course. You just throw in that Mibolerone (those cheque drops) and you will be there. This is the only steroid website on the net that has any passion about health and safety. For your sake bro, I hope you stay with eroids. Wishing you nothing but success - GearHead
Sorry i posted this on a reply way down-It's been a little over a week at 100 mg and I've notice a bit more, I'm up on my maxes 5 lbs here or there compared to my old maxes. Thinking about going up to 125 mg spaced out 50/25/50? Strength is slowly slowly slowly increasing but I never feel the strength and recover feeling I had with mdrol. Thinking about doing 2 more weeks anavar then halo for 2 weeks. Need the strength before the next comp. I promise to stay loyal to eroids and I always have my health in the best interest but I feel if I already am putting my self through this I might as well get something out of it. No reason to put toxic things in and get no results. Btw the anavar I believe is underdosed that's why the dose may seem a little high
My concern with what u are doing is purely one of timing. Any gains u see at the cycle's end as u slide into PCT may get compromised as u end your cycle. It's why I would almost say, save the halo until the next cycle.
Wow this got interesting. Well to start with I bump up the dose to 100 mg and I won't really know of it's done anything till next week. Some else i know who ueses the same source claims the var is underdosed. My plan is to use var for 2 more weeks at 100 mg or even 125 mg ( underdosed so idk ) if no improvement occurs over those two weeks then i will drop the var and use halo for 2 weeks then pct. So my cycle length will have not changed.
Wow. This post turned into a side-show carnival!
Glad Vitamin V is here to set things right. Go Vike!
Yeah I didn't think it would blow up but I'm greatful it did !
Add the mast if you have it on hand. You won't gain much with it. You will gain more with extra var. Var is very anabolic.
Whats he going to gain from the var and how much do you reckon he should use.
Not sure. Depending on how much he is lifting and big weight or endurance lifting. With 100 mg var he might accidently put on 10lbs or more.
Especially of the var isn't working why keep using it? Highly doubt if he sees no results from 75 mg he will see the results he is looking for with 100mgs. He should start looking for the steroid that works best for him.
If he switches over to a more equal rated androgen anabolic ratio he might have better luck. Methyl test possibly?
Steroids that attach to the androgen receptor for long periods of time, their ki value, give the most strength gain. So that would be 19nor steroids.
Personally i don't reccomend 19nor because methylated 19nor cause serious problems of you don't intake enough b6 to combat prolactin.
AnonHe wont be gaining 10lbs on var i dont think
You a powerlifter or bodybuilder bro...... i wish i could gain 10lbs with var lol
Powelifter/weightlifter
No. This guy is only on var. If he was on 3grams test AND 100mg var then 25 extra mg var would be nothing. But this guy is only on var, I would say 50mg var is androgen replacement and 100mg is borderline superphyiological androgen replacement. If he is used to normal test levels and goes on 50mg var he won't gain much. But 100mg var and I say he will gain 15 lbs in 4 weeks. All depends on how big he is ATM.
Hahah! I just read this guy is a powerlifter. Yeah man, 25mg var extra is definitally not going to make extra strength gains. Wtf, try halo, if halo doesn't work then try cheque drops. If both those fail, try methyltrienolone. Not sure why you are looking for strength gains in var. Your not going to see much improvement if your a fucking powerlifter on var. LOL. If your a powerlifter, your not going to gain much weight on any steroid, seriously, try adding some test to your cycle that will help energy and strength, drop the var and try halo.
AnonSo you are saying try every harsh oral steroid if one or the other doesnt work and then last but not least add test
My opinion a fuckin solid plan needs to be laid out and execute it
No I am saying he will benefit strength wise from test levels being up rather then low. When I am low on test I get sluggish.
And no, I take that back, don't even bother with halo or cheque drops, just go to methyltrienolone.
I still don't see why he is running a steroid cycle and trying to stay in the same weight class. I hope he realises that he will just loose those strength gains he got once he comes off the steroid. If he ain't gaining strength clean then he needs to start repping higher and increasing muscle density. If he refreshes his CNS and stopps powerlifting for a couple weeks his powerlifting will get better. That happens in every sport, doing the same thing over and over actually hurts. Resting is essential every now and again.
If he can't make strength gains without putting on weight there is also the chance he is at the top of his game and can't pump more weight for his current size.
Just some thoughts.
MT hmmmm my fave compound for slicing + dicing
Are you for fkn real... why not read the post correctly before spouting bad info out
I'll go edit those posts.
lol...15lbs in 4wks on var?.. are you having a laugh,and why mention 3 grams of test in this scenario..... what are you working from here bro.. a book or self-experience.
1000s of members read these threads bro.. i need to know were your knowledge base is geared from.
Knowledge base usually comes out my rear sphincter. As I said, I did not read he was a powerlifter. Just thought he was a highschool wrestler or amature fighter. I haven't done much reading on var, but in the case of first time steroid users(like I thought he was) I certainly see 15 to 20 lbs on that much var.
Why would you recommend a high school student to take drugs?
NOT without a kick-ass diet to run alongside the cycle.... brother ive been using gear 30+ yrs and if i neglect diet at any stage i may as well flush the juice down the bog.... if it was all just about the gear i wouldnt spend countless hours preaching and teaching nutrition on these boards... roids are a tool to be used in conjunction with a persons skill set about training and nutrition.
That!.. my friend is the A-Z of bodybuilding and self betterment in my book.
Haha that's what I like to hear. I eat only vegetables and fruits myself. Spinich and asparagus with some apple sause and grape juice for a prebreakfast snack in about 30 min for me. Thinking about running across the street for grapefruit juice when it the store opens.
I used to eat crappy until about 4 years ago, I cleaned up my food intake because my appetite was horrible eating junk food. Now a days I eat every hour, small meals.
AnonThats what im lookin for right there
Should I up the dose of var ? Or just add halo?
If you add halo drop the var. Gaining strength without gaining mass is hard. Usually if someone is looking for big strength and are restricted by weight classes they will not run a cycle, but use a powerful steroid right before the event. You will need to run hcg if you go this route though, you will lower your natural test levels even with a single dose of steroid. Running HCG and halo, methyltrienolone, or cheque drops with HCG will be better then running them without HCG. You need test energy. Your reflexes will drop without test, and you will bogg down your mental clarity. Anyway, that is what I suggest if you need strength without gains. But of you want to build strength without gaining weight then you need to rep higher. Say 50+ rep.
If I end up droping the var, what would you recommend me running the halo at ? Was thinking 20 mg a day , 10 when I wake up and 10 pre workout . Thanks for all the input!
With all the advice given in this thread, you decided on taking the advice from a guy with negative karma and he got dinged for his remarks in this thread as well!?! Good luck with that.
I know lol he's then only one who said anything about halo so I just asked. You should set me stright ! Lol what do you think I should do ?
Sorry. Just was a little grumpy at that particular moment. I thought you were upping your anavar dose and letting us know how it went, before jumping on the halo? How's it going?
It's been a little over a week at 100 mg and I've notice a bit more, I'm up on my maxes 5 lbs here or there. Thinking about going up to 125 mg spaced out 50/25/50? Strength is slowly slowly slowly increasing but I never feel the strength and recover feeling I had with mdrol. Thinking about doing 2 more weeks anavar then halo for 2 weeks. Need the strength before the next comp
I would up the Var for now and see how that goes. Adding halo right now will not solve the issue of why you're not getting results from the Var.
I mean I'm seeing a little but nothing like I've read where people where getting great strength gains. I upped the dose to 100 mg to day and will see how it goes. Had about 4 weeks left at 75mg, ill end up now with 2.5 weeks at 100 mg. Hope this works
"Stats
Age: 24
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 165
BF: 10"
Thanks for letting us know that you are a weight lifter that "is weight class limited".
What have been your previous cycles and their results? This is going to be an eight (8) week anavar/provi cycle?
Previous cycle was mdrol for 3.5 weeks where I gained 25+ pounds on most lifts. Yes 8 weeks is what I orginally planed. Thank you for assisting me.
I would like for others to weigh in as well (especially on dosing), but halo is going to be hard to beat for strength, which you say is your goal. I've had several weightlifter and BB friends that have used it, with great strength improvements. It can be very harsh on your liver though though. Were you planning on using it for a pre-workout?
Yeah Im not really big on drinking so my liver should be in pretty good health. The mdrol cycle was 7 months ago and I've been taken liver support ever since. Yeah pre work is what I was thinking to give a boost to the workouts and what not. The var just is not doing it for me. Idk if it takes more time to kick in or a higher dose but it's been pretty mediocre lately
It's very possible your var is under dosed.
That could be a possible reason but my source is very trusted. I'm getting the muscle pumps every says. Idk if upping to 100mg would make a difference
Have you done any blood tests to see what your liver values/enzymes are?
I have not done so. Before the cycle everything was tested and came back perfect. I will be getting one post cycle. I know that barely helps.
Before this current cycle your tests were good? All orals are hard on your liver, so I would test mid cycle as well. What are you using for liver support right now?
Also, are you confident that your anavar is real (solid source)?
Yes. Competive edge labs cycle support 2 x day. One of the best. Used it On my previous cycle as well. And Yes my source is in the top 10. Always has delived good products constantly for a while now. It's been 3.7 weeks usally I would notice something more then mild pumps and minor strength gains. I don't think bumping to 100 mg will benefit me anymore then 75 would but idk.