Adding EQ for E2 control
So my last cycle and subsequent cut/recomp went very well. Im pretty happy.
Last bulk
Week 1-16 Test C 600mg weekly
Week 1-16 NPP 400mg weekly
Week 1-6 and 14-16 Dbol 50mg daily
Adex 2x a week starting week 8
Week 10-12 took nolvadex daily
My question is I started to get high E2 sides, thought I felt a lump with nipple sensitivity, and was wondering if maybe adding lower dose EQ like 200-300 weekly might be helpful. I am also planning on using Deca this go around so that should workout well with the long half life of EQ.
I have seen similar cycles posted lots of places. Just want to make sure this isn't overkill.
Proposed cycle this next bulk
Week 1-24 Test E 600-750 weekly
Week 1-20 Deca 500mg weekly
Week 1-20 EQ 300mg weekly
Considering pulsing anadrol like I have seen in other recent posts after reading maqwas old post.
I will get labs pre, 6, 12, 18 and 24 weeks.
Let me know what you think.
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Ok , you asked so I will offer my 2 cents.
Youre way off the mark here.
You clearly have estrogen issues.
You said yourself you already have sensitivity & a lump in your breast tissue.
The answer to estrogen control is not incorporating another anabolic.
You spoke of labs. Good idea. Except you need labs now as clearly there is an issue that needs to be resolved immediately.
Thanks for the reply. Just for some follow up on a couple of comments, I don't currently have a lump. That was just during that 4ish week period during that last cycle and I'm not sure i wasn't just being paranoid. My E2 after 5 weeks was 68 and then at 12 weeks jumped to 130. I am 3 months post that last bulk.
Seems like most of you think adding EQ is not the way to go. I appreciate the advice. I will take all of this into account. Don't plan on starting anything for a while just in the planning phase.
No problem. Hope any advice I offer may be helpful.
If you're off off , bloods are good, and no obvious issue currently.
I can only recommend in the future, avoiding the heavy estrogren and progesterone converting compounds, IE dump the Dbol and NPP.
If you want to incorporate EQ in a future cycle, use a moderate test base with EQ alone. Montor bloods to see how the EQ effects your markers. Titrate up to desired levels until bloods go wonky or side are too much which can happen at any time. Your bloods should tell you everything. Also some cant handle EQ. Hunger / stomach pains, high anxiety, bad bloods. Only will know if you try.
Also stay hydrated. Cannot stress this enough especially when running EQ.
Be sure to have your AIs ready. Remember if you decide to try EQ its not a replacement for a true AI.
Your e2 is going to be higher than giraffe pussy
Well he already has a lump might as well see if he can add a few more and get bigger breasts.
Your first cycle already showed classic estrogen manament instability and your estrogen management is more reactive than proactive. The main issue with your first cycle is you’ve created a VERY estrogenic environment with test NPP and dbol….combing high aromatization, high androgen load, progestin activity all in one stack. Your solution has some fallacy to it…..EQ does NOT control estrogen, it aromatizes less than test, can sometimes lower measured estradiol but is not an estrogen management drug. Your second cycle is even more risky. Deca will worsen the issues your currently having and your dose is too high relative to test. You’re trying to treat side effects by adding more pounds??? Lower doses, try more frequent injections, fewer pounds, your lab schedule you mentioned is very good!!! Don’t skip this……don’t escalate the complexity of your cycles instead try to optimize your response to each cycle. I’m sure there are more that will chime in here and help you out but those are my thoughts , just remember listen to your own body, (and you’re doing this as youve recognized you get high E2 sides) everybody reacts differently, so a cycle that works for me may not work for you.
Real solid advice sir.