about to run a low test high tren cycle, help me decide about adding an oral
Hi
so I'm planning on running a high dose tren. low dose test (just trt lvls, about 125mg) cycle. This has worked great for me before in avoiding the most annoying tren sides while still producing great gains.
For this run I was thinking about adding an oral, likely one that works by suff other than AR activation (got tren for that). By removing stuff that I either don't like or that works mainly by activating the AR I'm left with Anadrol and Dianabol.
I've ran dianabol before and wasn't overly impressed and drol has been something I've wanted to try for a long time.
Goals are mostly strength + a little recomp.
So what are your suggestions? Save the money on the orals and get more tren? Add dbol (50mg day)? Add drol (100-150mg day)? Add both at a lower dose (like 25mg dbol, 50mg drol)?
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I think you answered your own question in the question you first asked.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/giving-out-inform...
Hope this covers it and if anyone needs more just ask. Everything except really personal stuff which I may or may/not answer.
Penis size? And sexual preference...just kidding,
Well instead of adding a oral, maybe try adding some masteron, or the oral version of that which is privorin( spelling). Both great compounds to add to any cycle, ill be adding mast to every cycle from here on out. I personally like winny (oral or inj) to my tren cycles, but it gives me horrible hair loss, even worse than mast, don't understand this but everyone responds to compounds differently.
Just remember to add only 1 new compound per cycle, you won't be able to know what side effects are coming from which compounds if you add more than one.
Sorry no mast, this is going to be a cycle with long esters and the source I'm getting it only has mast p. Will consider mast on my next one (source for that has mast e).
Winny and it's effect on joints makes it something I'd rather not gamble with (like lifting heavy).
The only really new one would be the drol, I ran all others, just not in this combination.
Goals/stats/diet. Well during the summer I've slacked off a bit (nothing mayor but still) gained some fat (basically if I slack off on the training I don't lose all that muscle and strength but I gain fat). Already started lifting and eating well and things have improved. Current stats are about a a 130kg ohp (standing all the way up and down), 270kg squat (these are the lifts I use to measure progress so I keep stats of them) + a little pudgy on my stomach. Weight is about 250. Diet is:
main protein sources:
lots of fish (me and my cat love them so we eat them together)(mostly I buy frozen (without the breading and shit) and grill them), cottage cheese, beef, chicken, eggs (not so much.)
lots of veggies (eat them plain), just love them + low on cals (mostly) so you don't need to worry about that
carb sources
oat meal, brown rice, don't know how it's called in english but it looks similar to rice, and you cook it the same way, legumes (love them).
Goals are to not be fat (former fat guy so...) and be as strong as possible. I don't want 6% bf if it hurts the others.
And to be completely honest to see how these compounds affect my body
Thank's for the warning and appologies about not reading the rules fully before posting.
Anyway here it goes (small bits may be missing since it's from my memory and over a long span of years).
I'll start with cycle history, since I remember most of it quite detailedly.
First (don't know if you count this one) cycle was an S-4 only one. While I had great endurance in the gym the results were disappointing in other ways (size, strength, ..). And the vision sides were annoying to the extreme, luckily they all went away within days of stopping. Was 24 (I think at the time).
Second was an oral only, 6 weeks of dbol and tbol (think it was 40mg tbol and 15 dbol), goal to finally break two prs that I wanted to for years - OHP (wanted at least 120kg) and squat (goal of at least 240kg).
Complete success, both prs broken (I think 125kg ohp and 240kg (hip was sore that day, I reached my goal, saw no reason to risk for more). Recovery was a breeze as well.
Third was test + dbol for 12 weeks low dose letro for e2 control (used that ever since for e2 control so wont write it) (dbol for the first 3.5 (25 50mg pills)). Goal was a general improvement of lifts, to see if injectible really is that better and to get over my fear of needles.
All lifts improved (not as much as I had hoped but oh well), my muscles got really noticeable (guess I finally got that 'on' look). Fear of needles.... well I can do an im/subq shot on me no problem but still feel uneasy when other do it.
4th was test 500mg + 20mg var 4 weeks for 10 weeks, goal was to cut up for summer, see if var really is all that and preserve my lifts.Complete success, lifts stayed within a few %, gained reps across the board (when the var kicked in (I used the var in the second half to see if orals work better when injectible lvls are already high). And for any one wondering var's the shit (at least for me, too bad I couldn't afford more), even got that stomach fat burning thing.
5th was high dose test (idk 1500?) + tren a (50mg ed), goal to get stronger. Well the tren kicked my ass (especially the insomnia part), once I removed that all went well.
6th was medium dose test (400mg), low dose tren (200mg) and low dose mast (200mg) for 10 weeks, goal to cut up while preserving my lifts. I was a bit afraid of the tren but nothing happened. Complete success, some lifts remained the same some dropped a few percent some grew a few percent and I looked really good at the end.
7th was low dose test (200mg), high dose tren (500mg) and 1mg injectable methyltren for the first 3 weeks (total length 10 weeks I think). Goal was to keep the tren look and get even stronger. The methyl tren was a disappointment (or under dosed or I respond badly to it), Otherwise the cycle was a success.