posted Sat, 09/07/2013 - 08:52
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A few questions for upcoming 3rd cycle (test e, eq, test prop)
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age 27
ht 5' 9
weight 182
bf 10-11%
first cycle test e only
second cycle test e test prop
planning 3rd cycle now...
test e 500 mg/week 1-16
eq 500 mg/week 1-16
test prop 100 mg EOD 17-19
HCG 500iu/week 9-19
Aro 12.5mg EOD 2-23 (last 2 weeks 6.25mg eod)
PCT 3 days after last prop pin
clomid 100/100/50/50
noval 40/40/20/20
Now I haven't used eq or hcg before, nor have I ran a cycle this long before. My biggest concern is timing with PCT, is 3 weeks after last eq pin good or do I need to adjust? Open to any comments or concerns about cycle.
Also was planning to front load 1000mg eq first week and have been toying with the idea of adding dbol for the first 4 weeks as my goal is to put on as much mass as possible. Thanks in advance.
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thanks for all the reply's, its now looking like
test e 500 mg/week 1-16
eq 500 mg/week 1-14
test prop 100 mg EOD 1-4
hcg 500iu/week 8-17
Im really interested in trying to mix the prop and eq to reduce pip as prop is not very friendly to me haha. would eq at 150mg eod w/prop be effective? that would equal 525mg of eq a week?
the problem with running the prop @ 150mgs eod would be that would mean your doing 1025mgs of test a week in the first 4 weeks, that's why I said 50mgs eod, then that would equal 750 mgs a week, wich is actually still high. because the test e is a long ester and eq is even longer, I just thought it would be good encouragement for you to see gains from the start with a kicker, you wont notice eq for atleast 6-7 weeks minimum, and test about 4-5 weeks. cheers mate. also watch your blood pressure!!!
revenge, think your math is off... 150mg/eod comes out to be 525mg per week over a 4 week span. and 50 eod would be 175mg/wk
im sorry Einstein, but if yo add in the test e he is taking??? what does that equal???
I think you misread the prop portion I was thinking of running 150mg of EQ in the same syringe as my 100mg prop shot to reduce pip. I totally see where you are coming from though although I thought the reason behind adding a prop kicker to a test e cycle is that the test e takes a few weeks to increase your test levels therefore the prop raises it quicker and then you stop doing the prop once the test e is kicked in. Also from the research ive done 50mg EOD of prop is almost not worth it?
yep sorry my bad I read that wrong, just trying to look out for you bro, eod shots will hurt btw, be carefull
Yes mate, mix it in the same pin. Could take the edge off the pip.
I personally would start the hcg @ week 4. 250ui split twice a week. That dose is to maintain the size of the testes. By week 8 there might well have already have been some atrophy of the testes.
I frontload eq but its up to you.
Hit me up with any questions.
yea I was planning on doing around 1000mg of eq the first week, does that sound good? at what week did you notice hunger increases? thanks for the hcg advice cant hurt to take good care of the boys!
It's hard to say really. I get more hungry when the test is working and then another step up at about week 8-9. 1000 seems about right if your going to frontload. I did this on my second test/eq cycle although the mg were higher and I front loaded for two weeks. Thant just me and I would stick to one week for your first eq cycle.
How much test did you run in your previous cycles?
I personally love eq, I'm on it right now but in your last sentence you say you want to put on as much mass as possible. Although eq is a good mass builder, it ain't no test.
Have you thought of keeping it more simple and just upping the test e/c?
It's a compound your familiar with and test is the king of mass IMO.
Just putting another option on the table buddy.
500mg/week. Ive heard great things about eq so im keen to try it. I have a hard time eating 7 meals a day so hopefully the eq will solve that problem
Lol, I'm sitting here with a bag of fucking chocolate reading this and I've just looked down and it's all gone. I didn't even put it in front of me. Anything within reaching distance gets consumed! It will make you eat.
I personally would switch it up a bit, why run a prop tapper at the end when the eq is going to lean you out anyway? why not use it as a kicker??
test e- @ 600- weeks 1-16
eq- @ 500- weeks 1-14
test p- @ 50mgs eod 1-4
p.c.t- 2.5 weeks after last injection
ai- good
remember to stop hcg 3.5 days before pct
Also you probably already know by now, its best to introduce one compound at a time, so i wouldnt do dbol and eq i would choose one or the other
You gotta run the test E two weeks longer than the EQ
So do EQ 1-14weeks
TestE 1-16weeks
RustyhookerOr 3week taper of prop til pct if clipped evenly. Sust and eq got those long Esters.