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3rd Cycle (Test C, Dbol)

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Hey guys. Little background on myself... 33 yrs old, 5'6", sitting at 10-9% bf. 163lbs. Been working out for about 11 yrs nonstop. Diet is very clean. I have run 2 cycles before. 1st was only Test E at about 200mg/week and I ran nothing with it. 2nd cycle was Test E at 400 mg/wk and I had a pct this time. 2nd cycle was great. I started at 145lbs 6% BF and shot up to 172lbs at the end of 14 weeks. Strength was through the roof and I know I gained mass but I did get very bloated. I dropped 10 or so lbs of water and that's where I am at now. It has been almost 6mths since my last cycle and just received my cycle and accessories except for my N2Guard. My cycle will be as follows...

WEEKS 1-12 TEST C 500MG/WEEK
WEEKS 1-10 DECA 300 MG/WEEK
WEEKS 1-4 DBOL 40 MG/DAY
WEEKS 7-12 WINSTROL 50MG/DAY
WEEKS 1-12 HCG 250IU 2X/WEEK
WEEKS 2-12 AROMASIN 12.5MG EOD
WEEKS 15-18 CLOMIPHENE 100MG, 100MG, 75MG, 50MG ED
N2guard through out entire cycle

My questions are:

Is the test, dbol, and Winstrol dosed high enough?
How does everything look?

Any help will be greatly appreciated

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So my order of gear just came and sad to say that the Deca was not be shipped for whatever reason. I only have the TestC, Dbol, and winny(which I will save for another cycle). Im taking the deca not being shipped as a sign not to use it right now. So my cycle (with ur guys approval) will look like this:

Test C, weeks 1-12 500/week
Dbol, weeks 1-4, 30/day
Aromasin weeks 1-14, 12.5/eod
HCG, weeks 2-12, 250 iu 2x/week
Clomid, weeks 15-18, 100, 50, 50, 50 ED
Nolva, weeks 15-18, 40, 40, 20, 20 ED

Should I still frontload the clomid to 150 for the 1st day?
And please... Get your critique on!

Again, if it weren't for you vets, there would be a lot of irresponsible use of AAS

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Im super stoked. Thanks

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Thanks for the info. I will run the test and deca. Still recheck everything you said? I will get the caber just in case.

gmammoth's picture

Supports look good, apart from a lack of caber for the Deca. I have a problem with jumping from using just Test E to 4 anabolic compounds. Choose Test and only one other AAS.

cholo1980's picture

Ok. So the test and deca will be fine for me. I can just save the other stuff. Besides not having the caber, which I will get, everything else ok? Should I dose the test higher?

gmammoth's picture

Stick with 500mg, your last cycle was 400mg test alone, this time your using deca as well. In essence your going from 400mg of AAS to 800mg so test can stay at 500.

As rusty said PCT needs some rethinking. Clomid dose would be better at 150(day one) 100/50/50/50
You can run aromasin up to and during PCT as well. Depending on your sensitivity to oestrogen.

cholo1980's picture

I appreciate the help. As soon as n2guard comes back in stock I will get enough for the cycle. Deca comes in tomorrow. Im guessing i have about a month or so before I start. One last question... for the clomiphene, why 150 day 1 then drop to 100 the next day?

gmammoth's picture

No problem mate. It's 150mg on day 1 to get the blood levels up quickly it is similar to front loading your test at the beginning of a cycle. Some people use 300mg on day one, I think that it may be a bit excessive but it is down to personal preference. Let me know how you get on.

cholo1980's picture

Awesome info! I appreciate the help bro. I sure will.

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Point taken. Is that because something might give me sides and I won't know what?