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3rd Cycle Advice, Deca or Mast... or both ?

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Ok gentlemen I'm looking for some advice for my upcoming cycle that I'd like to start this week.

My cycle history is short. I did a 6 week run of 1andro / 550XD PHs as my first run. No pins, but I learned about progesterone sides and PCT. Second cycle was 12 weeks of Test / EQ / Dbol. I've also done a run of Hyges as well. I'm 6'2 240 15% 28 years old training consistently for 3 years, and then on and off before that since school. I'm more or less looking for lean gains / recomp. While I will be running a calorie surplus, I won't be able to eat as much and as often as I would like since I'm taking a new position at work. I'll tell you the scenario's I have in mind and take your advice from there ( which is probably going to tell me to drop a compound )

option 1 )
Week 1-12 Test E 600mg
Week 2-12 Mast E 400mg
Week 4-12 Var 50mg ed

option 2)
Week 1-12 Test E 600mg
Week 1-10 Deca 400mg
Week 4-12 Var 50mg ed

or option 3!)
Week 1-12 Test E 600mg
Week 1-10 Deca 400mg
Week 2-12 Mast E 400mg
Week 4-12 Var 50mg ed

I will be running 12.5mg Exestane ED, and if I run the Deca I have pharm Caber onhand for .5mg 2x week.
PCT will start 2 weeks after my last shot using Evista and Clomid, and right after my last shot I will do 500 IUs HCG eod for a week to kick start my boys.

I'm currently accepting a huge promotion at work so I will be in a new environment with additional stress, so I'm really looking for a combo that offers a sense of well being and I want to avoid negative sides as much as possible. ( so no tren rage / insomnia ). Let me know your thoughts !

Catalyst's picture

Make your own thread rather than digging up old posts. You've also shrunk from 5-5 in your profile to 5-3 here......

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

thats because he dropped his carbs and does more of that cardio BS that wrecks perfectly good bodies lol

TheFlash85's picture

I like option one but without the var, sensible and safer, no need for caber and you would barely need an ai, still have your aro just incase, and standard pct protocol, calories in deficit for cutting, high protein with medium carbs, and high intensity training, high reps lower weight, its all in the kitchen mate diet!!!!

Catalyst's picture

This is your second AAS cycle, only used PH then one cycle before from what I understand?

Why all these compounds? Two new compounds at once means you won't know how you react to them individually. This inhibits what you can learn about your own reaction.

You're falling into the "more is better" mindset. Decide what you're trying to do as Juice said, then use max two compounds, test and one other.

BigChief's picture

I know I'm guilty of the more is better mindset I'll throw that up there right away lol but that's why I'm posting I suppose.

My original plan was to take Deca this winter and bulk up from 240 to 255, and then my summer cycle I wanted to cut and get chiseled ... I just got offered this promotion unexpectedly, and now I'm hesitant if I want to deal with the hard shut down of Deca while being in a new environment. So last minute I thought maybe test / mast would be a better idea for my situation...

BigChief's picture

Ok so how does this sound...

Week 1-14 Test E 600mg
Week 1-12 Deca 400mg
Week 5-13 Var 50mg ed

Caber .5 2x weekly
12.5mg 'stane ed

HCG / Evista / Clomid for PCT. Probably throw in some DAA and test boosters also

Muffins's picture

That's good

Muffins's picture

Number 2: I say use NPP instead of Deca. If you use Deca, your plan on length of use is not long enough. Caber is not something you just have "on hand", you use it.

BigChief's picture

Lol yea guys I'm saying I have it on me if I go the Deca route .... I didn't mean it to sound like its on hand incase I get sides Smile I experienced Deca dick from 1 andro before I learned about caber and I will never , never do that again ! I do have enough to run 12 weeks of the Deca at 400mg. Test I could extend to 14 weeks to allow the Deca out of my system before pct starts ?

boots2asses12's picture

''Caber is not something you just have "on hand", you use it.'' lol true dat