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-1 2nd steroid cycle.

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I am going to run my second cycle or first true cycle.

Figured make a post see if there’s anything I learn for last minute adjustments aswell as be active on here.

I’m 5”8 185 at 15-16% bf

The plan is 550 test and and 400 npp. Dose eod but not opposed to switching to ed. I plan on getting blood work after 2-3 weeks than at 8 weeks or so to monitor blood work and see if administration of ai will be needed. I got arimidex and P5p on hand ready to go. I think I prefer to lower the dose than use caber just due to things I’ve read so far about caber if P5p does not help with progesterone enough. As this is for a bulk I will be eating in a calculated surplus. I have been considered adding an oral towards the end of my cycle to push past any plateau if I run into one. I was thinking about var or dbol which I’ve heard dbol is common to run. That has made me think and wonder do people run adrol with npp? I haven’t really seen anything about adrol and npp so was curious if anyone had experience with that or knows if there is a reason it is not used together

Open to any insight. Main things interested in hearing more about:

Is caber really as bad as people make it out to be?.
Adrol npp together
If var at 50mg would be a pointless stressor for a bulking cycle
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Jockstrap's picture

Thats not smart. Facts....you made simple errors on 1st cycle. Bloods...foods...etc. repeat 1st...test only. Perfect it! Gear only speeds recovery. Cmon bro....educate Smile

Milfpounder's picture

Man. That is the truest fucking shit I've heard lately... Coming off blast to cruise and EVERYTHING hurts, and the soreness and feeling like my right shoulder is going to fall off all day..

Necessary evil I guess.

Jockstrap's picture

Nosir....listen to your body so you're gonna be jack lalane at 90yrs old. Lol!! Joint care sir...mix workouts for goals and making that next year. It's not easy coming off as a beast to still fkn jacked. And numbers drop a bit. Lol

My first 3 cycles was test only at 300mg....and held the gains because 6days a week working out and a decade in the gym. Muscle memory plus heart. I dunno....I'm a cave man nowadays. Lol!

Tricky_The_Clown's picture

Copy thanks for the insight you got everything undert control now? yea was just curious about them together and haven’t see anyone talk about them used together. Regardless of what I use I plan to keep close eye on my markers. As I have the money not to cheap out and protect my health.

First true cycle as in more than just test. Likely will just be sticking with the test and npp.

Massa Ron's picture

That’s too much. Using more gear isn’t going to get you big faster. You’ll get marginal growth benefits and exponential risk of sides. Go low and slow for as long as you can.

Tricky_The_Clown's picture

Yes I agree. The dose of test I feel comfortable as I’ve ran 450mg test with no issues at all other then a lil acne on the ass. Maybe best to start a little lower on the npp and titrate up, I wanted to do a blood test early to catch anything right away then adjust accordingly if needed since it’s a shorter ester. Then if 2nd blood work was good finish with Anavar. I can say I’m not trying to take more gear to get bigger quicker. That why I didn’t want to add more injectables in. But I should prob start a little lower on both and titrate up if markers look good. Appreciate your input.

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