+ 1 24 week cycle
Hello Folks,
Quick intro
46y.o, lifting for 30 plus years. Ran a few cycles around 10 years ago. More of a learning experience as my last one was tren and it did a number on my recovery.
10 years later Im on TRT.
Currently 205 @ 5"8, estimated bf%16ish.
Bench 315 for 8/ Squat 400 for 5. I'd consider myself a body building enthusiast, but I do like being strong. I prefer rep ranges of 4-8 but appreciate all methods etc.
Lately I train with more frequency and less volume. Most times going to failure in whatever rep range. I do adequate cardio but am working on working that in ALOT more as I age.
Compunds Ive used. Test E/C/ and prop. Tren A, Mast E, Tbol,
Im a high aromatiser but also very sensitive to AIs and have crashed it with ADEX . I prefer test being my only aromatising compound.
Heres my idea. The goal is cut/recomp.
Week 1-24( Test E @ 400 )
Week 1-20( EQ @3/400)
Week 1-6 ( anavar@50 )
Week 8-16- ( Tren A @ 200 )
Week 10-14 ( Oral Winny @ 50)
Week 16-24 ( mast prop @ 200-400)
Week 18-24 ( Tbol @50) maybe...thats alot of orals
Bloods will be done prior and midway.......and later if I need to.
Adex on hand but curious about E2 with bold. My trt @ 150 takes my E2 well above ref range but without much issue.
There will be emphasis on cardio , training stays the same for the most part but may add rest as I feel like I might be getting muche stronger in a maintenance to deficit so I want to be careful.
Expectations are to lose body fat, get down to 12% while hopefully gaining a little muscle and looking jacked.
LMK
thanks !!!!
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Tren sucks bro. Don’t do it
I’ve run tren. No issues except recovery but I am on trt.
What sucked about it for you . ?
Way too complicated. 500 test will do you good, add proviron for an extra kick. I guess you could do like 400 test 200 EQ or something but if you haven’t cycled in a long time I really think just test is going to give you the best gains and will make managing sides really easy.
Not complicated at all . The cycle is built around side management with mostly low doses with the exception of the orals which can be stopped instantly . The only wild card is the tren which I’ve run before , but it’s also ace thar can be stopped immediately. High E2 Is my main concern and then lipids from orals which is why bloood will be done multiple times , and the cycle compliments that . I’m not going over 400 test, that’s where my sides come into play.
I ran mast and tbol with tet , didn’t clarify , but that’s trt plus in my book .
I do , however , appreciate your advice ! Don’t mean to make it sound otherwise brother !
I want this to be a hell of a cycle, . .
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anvil7 compounds makes for very complicated side effect management. At age 46 recouping from harsh gear becomes more difficult no matter , as I will be 49 in a few days. Oral winny midway? End of cycle maybe, Tbol at all why? At some points of this "cycle" you will be at 2 grams of gear. At 200lbs and not used anything for 10 years is all of that even needed to achieve a simple goal of BF reduction? You can only recruit so many satellite cells at one time for muscle growth, if you do something moderate with diet and cardio this goal shouldn't be terribly hard. That is what he means by complicated.
This is exactly was I was getting at. Just too much going on imo. I’m running ~1g of gear at 215 lbs and honestly feel like I could have gotten away with a little bit less. I personally prefer to keep things simple when possible because I’m not smart or knowledgable enough to deal with the sides from 10 different compound and even if I was, what’s the benefit of running all that if I can just run some test and npp and get 90% of the results?
The other 10%. Is the difference --
And it’s not 10 compounds . It’s only 3 at once and only one at a time that would be new .
I appreciate you brother. . Thank you for your insight .
Sorry bud, I was all worked up about something else. I went off a little too hard there
All good brother. Your point has merit for sure
anvilYeah I think he's got it now.
It’s never more than 3 compounds at a time.
I do understand your point completely however , it’s alot but I think it was thought out pretty well .i suppose I should have been more agressive in my expectation .
Thanks for your insight on the winny . That’s what i was looking for .
I’ll consider running the mast where the winny is and see stick the winny on the back end if even it’s even needed. The tbol is overkill .
Maybe I have to much sh@t on hand !!
Thank you , much appreciated
I'd stick to the basics if it's been a decade since you've ran a cycle. I'd up your TRT dose and incorporate one other compound max. Health is wealth brother.
Honestly just trying to drop 4% body fat this is an overkill cycle (you said you’re 16% and wanna get to 12%). You could do that in 4-5 weeks easily and by then the EQ won’t even have kicked in. That is a lot of orals too like you said. The tren isn’t needed either. Just end up fucking up your sleep.
I’d just do the cut on your TRT dose and maybe throw an oral in there for temporary aesthetic change.
Save the big cycles like this for a competition cut or legit bulk.
Just my $0.02
OK, expectations have now changed ;)